Religion and relationships - Page 3

wolf · 09-24-2006, 05:47 PM

There is also 1 Corinthians 12-14 (KJV)

12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.

13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.

14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

vrai_rennx · 09-24-2006, 06:35 PM

That's part of why I don't like Catholicism- They're always all 'ZOMG THE BIBLE', but then if a Catholic wants to get married in the church to a non-Catholic, their potential spouse has to convert. But it says right there in the Bible that it's okay for a believer to be married to a non-believer.

wolf · 09-24-2006, 08:43 PM

Catholics do not read or particularly follow the Bible. They follow Catholic Doctrine as expressed in the Catechism.

The Bible (Catholic Standard Edition) is doled out in small doses during Sunday Mass only.

All Catholics have a Bible in the House. It's purpose is to hold prayer cards, mass cards, and funeral cards, as well as to press the occasional four-leaf clover.

xoxoxoBruce · 09-26-2006, 09:01 AM

The Bible is a quasi-accurate history book, telling us how people lived, what they believed, how their interactions played out. We can learn a lot from it.

That said, use it as a guide to figure out what you feel is proper behavior, and not take specific passages to be gospel (pun). Any passage you can quote to justify particular behavior, somewhere is the Bible a case can be made for the exact opposite.

If you let someone else dictate your behavior without your input, you probably won't be happy.

09-27-2006, 08:04 AM

But... thinking is so harrrrrd.

The Worlds Wolf · 02-08-2009, 06:01 PM

i know its been a long time since someones posted anything.. but im in the same situation.. almost exacly the same.. only she is worried to death about my well being with god. i am/was a naturalist. i just lived life believing there was an after life and i would see what it was when it came to be. but then she shows me this thing called The Rapture. even though its different in the bible it has the same ideas.. and shes scared for me. ive never EVER been caught in such a hard situation. i cant sleep or eat. my emotions are up and down. if god was so great.. youd think it be easier to conver =\. or if god loved us all hed understand my differents and show me when its time. but this iss oo hard. im crying randomly and worrying about her. its hard. i lived 6 years of my life as a naturalist. and was happy. even when troubles struck i fount a higher reason for why it happened. i just hope somthing happens. that everything will be ok and i wont loose her or visa versa

capnhowdy · 02-14-2009, 09:07 AM

Stop your crying and shit can her. The only way religious people ever accept anyone is if they agree or pretend to agree.
If you start out trying to change, the only change you get is from primal attraction to hurtful indifference.
The odds of a relationship working are a lot better if you can start out as who you really are and not what some stubborn asshole wants you to be.

Griff · 02-14-2009, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capnhowdy

Stop your crying and shit can her.

That struck my funny bone. You're probably right though. How can you have a relationship with someone who thinks your gonna fry?

DanaC · 02-15-2009, 07:56 AM

I can understand her concern. She believes that the man she loves is damned if she doesn't help save him. It is an act of love in such circumstances, to try and convert him.

That said...if a relationship makes you less happy than you were is it a good relationship to be in? You had made an acceptable compact with the world you found yourself in. You were happy with what you perceived as your place in that and the beliefs which you had formed.

Now you're in tears? Now you are worried and upset and reaching for something which it doesn't honestly sound as if you actually believe in.

Personally, I would be inclined to draw a line in the sand: This is me. This is what I believe. I've listened to what you believe...I respect it but I don't share your faith. If that's a problem then this relationship has no future. If the relationship is to have a future, it must do so without these attempts at conversion and persuasion.

That would be my line. Because right now, she is (however innocent the motive) fucking with your head.

Whether there is a life after death or not, none of us know. I believe there isn't. You presumably believe there is (in some form). What there is after life, we cannot know. How likely is it that this one of the many cults/faiths/confessions that exist, or have ever existed, has got it right on the button?

What you can be sure of, is the life you have. Make this one a happy one and that much at least can you give yourself. If this situation is making you unhappy, then I suggest you rectify it.

[eta] welcome to the Cellar btw *smiles* stick around, but whatever you do don't ever open that red door over there...

footfootfoot · 02-15-2009, 08:36 AM

http://www.zappos.com/n/es/d/35217/page/1.html

xoxoxoBruce · 02-15-2009, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot

http://www.zappos.com/n/es/d/35217/page/1.html

Spam? Et tu, 3-ft.

wolf · 02-15-2009, 02:20 PM

I believe he was expressing an opinion about need to run.

Far and fast.

With the shinest and newest sneakers.

At bargain prices.

Available now.

With easy credit terms.

capnhowdy · 02-15-2009, 03:19 PM

Bumping up walking shoes to running shoes. That was my take.

And I agree.

Shawnee123 · 02-15-2009, 03:19 PM

There's gotta be a joke in here somewhere, regarding sneakers and the other foot.

capnhowdy · 02-15-2009, 03:37 PM

Foot 3's pissed 'cause he has to spend 50% more than me on skids.

09-24-2006, 05:47 PM	#31
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	There is also 1 Corinthians 12-14 (KJV) 12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away. 13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

09-24-2006, 06:35 PM	#32
vrai_rennx Voix de Vérité Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: at the bottom of the sea Posts: 59	That's part of why I don't like Catholicism- They're always all 'ZOMG THE BIBLE', but then if a Catholic wants to get married in the church to a non-Catholic, their potential spouse has to convert. But it says right there in the Bible that it's okay for a believer to be married to a non-believer. __________________ ~les beaux esprits se rencontrent~

09-24-2006, 08:43 PM	#33
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Catholics do not read or particularly follow the Bible. They follow Catholic Doctrine as expressed in the Catechism. The Bible (Catholic Standard Edition) is doled out in small doses during Sunday Mass only. All Catholics have a Bible in the House. It's purpose is to hold prayer cards, mass cards, and funeral cards, as well as to press the occasional four-leaf clover. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

09-26-2006, 09:01 AM	#34
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	The Bible is a quasi-accurate history book, telling us how people lived, what they believed, how their interactions played out. We can learn a lot from it. That said, use it as a guide to figure out what you feel is proper behavior, and not take specific passages to be gospel (pun). Any passage you can quote to justify particular behavior, somewhere is the Bible a case can be made for the exact opposite. If you let someone else dictate your behavior without your input, you probably won't be happy. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-14-2009, 09:07 AM	#37
capnhowdy Blatantly Homosapien Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,200	Stop your crying and shit can her. The only way religious people ever accept anyone is if they agree or pretend to agree. If you start out trying to change, the only change you get is from primal attraction to hurtful indifference. The odds of a relationship working are a lot better if you can start out as who you really are and not what some stubborn asshole wants you to be. __________________ Please type slowly. I can't read very fast............... and no holy water, please.

09-27-2006, 08:04 AM	#35
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	But... thinking is so harrrrrd.

02-08-2009, 06:01 PM	#36
The Worlds Wolf Kinda New Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1	i know its been a long time since someones posted anything.. but im in the same situation.. almost exacly the same.. only she is worried to death about my well being with god. i am/was a naturalist. i just lived life believing there was an after life and i would see what it was when it came to be. but then she shows me this thing called The Rapture. even though its different in the bible it has the same ideas.. and shes scared for me. ive never EVER been caught in such a hard situation. i cant sleep or eat. my emotions are up and down. if god was so great.. youd think it be easier to conver =\. or if god loved us all hed understand my differents and show me when its time. but this iss oo hard. im crying randomly and worrying about her. its hard. i lived 6 years of my life as a naturalist. and was happy. even when troubles struck i fount a higher reason for why it happened. i just hope somthing happens. that everything will be ok and i wont loose her or visa versa

02-15-2009, 07:56 AM	#39
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	I can understand her concern. She believes that the man she loves is damned if she doesn't help save him. It is an act of love in such circumstances, to try and convert him. That said...if a relationship makes you less happy than you were is it a good relationship to be in? You had made an acceptable compact with the world you found yourself in. You were happy with what you perceived as your place in that and the beliefs which you had formed. Now you're in tears? Now you are worried and upset and reaching for something which it doesn't honestly sound as if you actually believe in. Personally, I would be inclined to draw a line in the sand: This is me. This is what I believe. I've listened to what you believe...I respect it but I don't share your faith. If that's a problem then this relationship has no future. If the relationship is to have a future, it must do so without these attempts at conversion and persuasion. That would be my line. Because right now, she is (however innocent the motive) fucking with your head. Whether there is a life after death or not, none of us know. I believe there isn't. You presumably believe there is (in some form). What there is after life, we cannot know. How likely is it that this one of the many cults/faiths/confessions that exist, or have ever existed, has got it right on the button? What you can be sure of, is the life you have. Make this one a happy one and that much at least can you give yourself. If this situation is making you unhappy, then I suggest you rectify it. [eta] welcome to the Cellar btw smiles stick around, but whatever you do don't ever open that red door over there...

02-15-2009, 08:36 AM	#40
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	http://www.zappos.com/n/es/d/35217/page/1.html __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

02-15-2009, 02:20 PM	#42
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I believe he was expressing an opinion about need to run. Far and fast. With the shinest and newest sneakers. At bargain prices. Available now. With easy credit terms. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

02-15-2009, 03:19 PM	#43
capnhowdy Blatantly Homosapien Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,200	Bumping up walking shoes to running shoes. That was my take. And I agree. __________________ Please type slowly. I can't read very fast............... and no holy water, please.

02-15-2009, 03:19 PM	#44
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	There's gotta be a joke in here somewhere, regarding sneakers and the other foot. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

02-15-2009, 03:37 PM	#45
capnhowdy Blatantly Homosapien Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,200	Foot 3's pissed 'cause he has to spend 50% more than me on skids. __________________ Please type slowly. I can't read very fast............... and no holy water, please.

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