3/14/2006: Z Machine - Page 2

xoxoxoBruce · 03-14-2006, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Promenea

What fascinated me in the original article is that the temps were higher than they calculated possible with the amount of matter within the test chamber. One guy said something to the effect that there must have been more matter than they could account for. If so, where'd it come from? Anyone missing some socks or small animals?

Dark matter? Anti-matter? Some parallel dimensions?

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So all the sparky bits are just a side-effect of the real thing going on in the center.

Is that how all the electronics get knocked out in a nuclear attack?

Slight · 03-14-2006, 07:40 PM

I just set this image as one of my background images a few days ago, and I noticed after staring at it for a while that part of it was (poorly) photoshopped. If you look at the lower right corner you can see that something got in the way and had to be rubber stamped.

capnhowdy · 03-14-2006, 08:05 PM

Could I get one of these for LR ceiling?

I can't see the 'shop. I looked hard. Rubber stamped? What does that mean? Pardon my ignorance.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-14-2006, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Slight

I just set this image as one of my background images a few days ago, and I noticed after staring at it for a while that part of it was (poorly) photoshopped. If you look at the lower right corner you can see that something got in the way and had to be rubber stamped.

I don't see it in the 1.66 meg version, but I'm hardly an expert. Actually I'm hardly an amateur.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ima...sandia_big.jpg

bluraven · 03-14-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Slight

I just set this image as one of my background images a few days ago, and I noticed after staring at it for a while that part of it was (poorly) photoshopped. If you look at the lower right corner you can see that something got in the way and had to be rubber stamped.

Poorly? I didn't even notice it untill you pointed that out. Hehe.

Kagen4o4 · 03-14-2006, 10:38 PM

im guessing it has something to do with people trying to recreate it from the photo maybe?
like how google earth has the american congress building blurred. some kind of safety reasons?

Slight · 03-15-2006, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by capnhowdy

I can't see the 'shop. I looked hard. Rubber stamped? What does that mean? Pardon my ignorance.

The rubber stamp or clone tool is when you use data from another part of the photo, or from another photo to cover up something.

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I don't see it in the 1.66 meg version, but I'm hardly an expert. Actually I'm hardly an amateur.

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Originally Posted by bluraven

Poorly? I didn't even notice it untill you pointed that out. Hehe.

Ok, I guess its not that poorly done if I didn't even notice it right away. I say its poorly done because I eventially found it. A good photoshop job leaves you wondering if its real or not, with no hard evidence. You can tell it was rubber stamped because there are repeating patterns. The reason this one popped out at me is because electrostatic discharges appear organic and continuous, but at the very bottom on the right side you can see unconnected discharges. I have to grant that whoever did this, worked hard.

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Originally Posted by Kagen4o4

im guessing it has something to do with people trying to recreate it from the photo maybe?
like how google earth has the american congress building blurred. some kind of safety reasons?

I thought so too. But after looking at it again for you guys, I noticed that the photoshop was probably done to stitch two photos together along the edge of the main photo; probably due to the cutoff you get from a fisheye lens. This is evidenced by the upper right corner being all black which it shouldn't be if compared to the exposure in the upper left. And if you look very closely at the upper right ceiling, the roof trusses don't line up.

enough analysis

Kagen4o4 · 03-15-2006, 06:35 PM

by looking at that picture it looks like there may just have been something in the way that made the photo crap and therefore not APoD worthy. like the cord on some cameras or just a pole or sumfin

AureliusVin · 03-15-2006, 08:19 PM

Okay, maybe I missed this, but is there a practical reason or advantage to be gained from creating a temperature of this magnitude? Or is this just another example of the U.S. telling eveyone, "We have a lot of money and we are putting it to good use."

wolf · 03-15-2006, 09:26 PM

Is this the same technology that's part of that mind control harp array or whatever Art Bell was talking about last year?

dar512 · 03-16-2006, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AureliusVin

Okay, maybe I missed this, but is there a practical reason or advantage to be gained from creating a temperature of this magnitude? Or is this just another example of the U.S. telling eveyone, "We have a lot of money and we are putting it to good use."

I don't know, but my guess is that it's a step toward fusion power.

Elspode · 03-17-2006, 09:33 AM

I think you have to be a member of Physicists Club for Nerds before you know for sure *why* they're doing this, although I, too, suspect that it is related to fusion research. Matter behaves strangely at high energies, and there are probably a lot of efforts going on to encourage that sort of thing for purposes of pure research into high energy physics.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-17-2006, 07:03 PM

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Originally designed to supply 50 terawatts of power in one fast pulse, technological advances allowed this to increase to 290 terawatts, enough to study nuclear fusion.

Ding Ding Ding, give those men cigars.

Beestie · 03-18-2006, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf

Is this the same technology that's part of that mind control harp array or whatever Art Bell was talking about last year?

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jojo · 03-18-2006, 09:05 AM

yeesh. i like to tell myself that everyone is good, our government doesn't do scary things, michael jackson was telling the truth, blah, blah, blah, just to have the world make sense.

but then super-secret tundra crossing lines turn up and damn, i gotta soothe myself with some more happy talk...

seriously, though, how come the brightest idea i've ever come up with is adding pepper to my mac & cheese. the distribution of intelligence in this world is just not fair - i wanna be smart too

03-14-2006, 07:40 PM	#17
Slight Semi-Evil Genius Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Boulder CO Posts: 195	pshopped I just set this image as one of my background images a few days ago, and I noticed after staring at it for a while that part of it was (poorly) photoshopped. If you look at the lower right corner you can see that something got in the way and had to be rubber stamped.

03-14-2006, 08:05 PM	#18
capnhowdy Blatantly Homosapien Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,200	Could I get one of these for LR ceiling? I can't see the 'shop. I looked hard. Rubber stamped? What does that mean? Pardon my ignorance. __________________ Please type slowly. I can't read very fast............... and no holy water, please.

03-15-2006, 09:26 PM	#25
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Is this the same technology that's part of that mind control harp array or whatever Art Bell was talking about last year? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

03-17-2006, 09:33 AM	#27
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	I think you have to be a member of Physicists Club for Nerds before you know for sure why they're doing this, although I, too, suspect that it is related to fusion research. Matter behaves strangely at high energies, and there are probably a lot of efforts going on to encourage that sort of thing for purposes of pure research into high energy physics. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

03-14-2006, 10:38 PM	#21
Kagen4o4 The Sheriff of Nothingland Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 1,794	im guessing it has something to do with people trying to recreate it from the photo maybe? like how google earth has the american congress building blurred. some kind of safety reasons?

03-15-2006, 06:35 PM	#23
Kagen4o4 The Sheriff of Nothingland Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 1,794	by looking at that picture it looks like there may just have been something in the way that made the photo crap and therefore not APoD worthy. like the cord on some cameras or just a pole or sumfin

03-15-2006, 08:19 PM	#24
AureliusVin Expectorant Inspector Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 31	Okay, maybe I missed this, but is there a *practical* reason or advantage to be gained from creating a temperature of this magnitude? Or is this just another example of the U.S. telling eveyone, "We have a lot of money and we are putting it to good use."

03-18-2006, 09:05 AM	#30
jojo is anyone home? Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: state of denial Posts: 42	yeesh. i like to tell myself that everyone is good, our government doesn't do scary things, michael jackson was telling the truth, blah, blah, blah, just to have the world make sense. but then super-secret tundra crossing lines turn up and damn, i gotta soothe myself with some more happy talk... seriously, though, how come the brightest idea i've ever come up with is adding pepper to my mac & cheese. the distribution of intelligence in this world is just not fair - i wanna be smart too

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