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Old 11-02-2006, 12:20 PM   #1
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"I do not let people die on me."

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"My pig?" he said. "They shot him twice in the face with a 9 millimeter pistol, and then six times with an AK-47 and then twice with a 12-gauge shotgun. And then he was set on fire."
This is a part of the practice, this is what they train for, this is what they expect to prevail against.

If we have "only" 2800+ casualties so far, it is because people like Petty Officer Third Class Dustin Kirby keeps many of them from becoming casualties.

Petty Officer Third Class Dustin Kirby, I salute you.

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International Herald Tribune
'I do not let people die on me'
By C.J. Chivers
The New York Times

Petty Officer Third Class Dustin Kirby clutched the wounded marine's empty helmet. His hands were coated in blood. Sweat ran down his face, which he was trying to keep straight but kept twisting into a snarl.

He held up the helmet and flipped it, exposing the inside. It was lined with blood and splinters of bone.

"The round hit him," he said, pausing to point at a tiny hole that aligned roughly with a man's temple. "Right here."

Kirby, 22, is a corpsman, the trauma medic who is assigned to the Second Mobile Assault Platoon of Weapons Company, Second Battalion, Eighth Marines. Everyone calls him Doc. He had just finished treating a marine who had been shot by an Iraqi sniper.

"It was 7.62 millimeter," he continued. "Armor piercing." He reached into his pocket and retrieved the bullet, which he had found. "The impact with the Kevlar stopped most of it," he said. "But it tore through, hit his head, went through and came out."

He put the bullet into his breast pocket, to give to an intelligence team later. Sweat kept rolling off his face, mixed with tears. His voice was almost cracking, but he managed to control it and keep it deep. "When I got there, there wasn't much I could do," he said.

Then he nodded. He seemed to be talking to himself. "I kept him breathing," he said.

He looked at Lance Corporal Matias Tafoya, his driver, and raised his voice. It was almost a shout. "When I told you that I do not let people die on me, I meant it," he said. "I meant it."

He scanned the Iraqi houses, perhaps 150 meters, or 500 feet, away, on the other side of a fetid green canal. Marines were all around, pressed to the ground, peering from behind machine gun turrets or bracing against their armored vehicles, aiming rifles at where they thought the sniper was.

The sniper had made a single shot just as the marines were leaving a rural settlement on the western edge of Karma, a city near Falluja in Anbar Province.

The marines had been searching several houses on this side of the canal, where they found five Kalashnikov assault rifles and bomb components, and were getting back into their vehicles when everyone heard the shot. It was a single, loud crack.

No one was precisely sure where it had come from. Everyone knew precisely where it hit. It struck a marine who was peering out of the first vehicle's gun turret. He collapsed.

Kirby rushed to him and found him breathing. He bandaged his head as the vehicle lurched away. Soon he helped load the wounded marine onto a helicopter, which touched down beside the convoy within 12 minutes of the shot.

Once the helicopter lifted away, Doc Kirby ran back to his vehicle, ready to treat anyone else. He was thinking about the marine he had already treated.

"If I had gone with him," he said, and glanced to where the helicopter had flown away, over the line of date palms at the end of a field. His voice softened. "But I'm not with him," he said.

He turned, faced a reporter and spoke loudly again. "In situations and times like this, I am bound to start yelling and shouting furiously," he said. "Don't think I am losing my mind."

He held his bloody hands before his face, to examine them. They were shaking. He made fists so tight his veins bulged.

"His name was Lance Corporal Colin Smith," he said. "He said a prayer today right before we came out, too."

"Every time before we go out, we say a prayer," Doc Kirby said. "It is a prayer for serenity. It says a lot about things that do pertain to us in this kind of environment."

The only sounds were Kirby's voice and the vehicle's engine thrumming. He recited the prayer. There were a few moments of silence. "It's a platoon kind of thing, if you know what I mean," he said.

He listened to his radio headset and looked at Tafoya, relaying word of the marines' movements. "Right now the grunts are performing a hard hit on a house," he said. He turned back to the subject of Smith.

"The best news I can throw at anybody right now, and that I am throwing to myself as often as I can, is that his eyes were okay," he said. "They were both responsive. And he was breathing. And he had a pulse."

He listened to his radio. "Two houses they've hit so far have both been swept and cleared."

After a few minutes he started talking again. "You see, having a good platoon, one that you know real well, it's both a gift and a curse. And Smith? Smith has been with me since I was..."

He stopped. "He was my roommate before we left," he said.

He refilled his lungs and raised his voice. "His dad was his best friend," he said. "He's got the cutest little blond girlfriend, and she freaks out every time we call because she's so happy to hear from him."

He sat quietly again. A few minutes passed. "The first casualty we had here - his name was James Hirlston - he was his good friend."

"Hirlston got shot in the head, too," he said.

Then he was back to the subject of Smith, who was 19.

"I really thank God that he was breathing when I got to him, because it means that I can do something with him," Kirby said. "It helps. People ask you, 'What are you doing? What are you doing?' It helps, because if he's breathing, you're doing something."

There had been many Iraqi civilians outside a few minutes before the sniper made his shot. Most of them had disappeared. Now an Iraqi woman walked calmly between the sniper and the marines, as if nothing had happened.

She passed down the street.

Kirby began to list the schools he had attended to be ready for this moment. Some he had paid for himself, he said, to be extra prepared. At one military course, an advanced trauma treatment program he had taken before deploying, he said the instructors gave each corpsman a live pig.

"The idea is to work with live tissue," he said. "You get a pig and you keep it alive. And every time I did something to help him, they would wound him again. So you see what shock does, and what happens when more wounds are received by a wounded creature."

"My pig?" he said. "They shot him twice in the face with a 9 millimeter pistol, and then six times with an AK-47 and then twice with a 12-gauge shotgun. And then he was set on fire."

"I kept him alive for 15 hours," Kirby said. "That was my pig."

"That was my pig," he said.

He paused. "Smith is my friend." He looked at his bloody hands. "You got some water?" he said. "I want some water. I just want to wash my wedding band."

He listened to the tactical radio. The platoon was sweeping houses, but could not find the sniper.

The company started to move. It stopped at another house. The marines were questioning five Iraqi men. Kirby watched from the road, waiting for the next call.

"I would like to say that I am a good man," he said. "But seeing this now, what happened to Smith, I want to hurt people. You know what I mean?"

The marines had not fired a shot. The marines took one of the five men into custody, mounted their vehicles and drove back to Outpost Omar, their company base, passing knots of Iraqi civilians on the way. The civilians looked at them coldly.

Inside the wire, First Lieutenant Scott Burlison, the company commander, gathered the group and told them that Smith was alive and in surgery. He was critical, but stable. They hoped to fly him to Germany.

Kirby had scrubbed himself clean. A big marine stepped forward with a small Bible, and the platoon huddled. He began with Psalm 91, Verses 5 and 11.

"Thou shall not be afraid for the terror by night, nor for the arrow that flieth by day," said the big marine, Lance Corporal Daniel Nicholson. "For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways."

Then he asked for the Lord to look after Lance Corporal Smith and whatever was ahead, and to take care of everyone who was still in the platoon.

"Help us Lord," he said. "We need your help. It's the only way we're going to get through this."

Kirby stood in the corner, his arm looped over a marine. "Amen," he said. There were some hugs, and then the marines and their Doc went back to their bunks and their guns.
But those wounded soldiers, what becomes of them?
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Old 11-02-2006, 12:32 PM   #2
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According to Wikipedia;
"2,811 total deaths, 21,266 combat wounded (9,603 evacuated), plus an unknown number of non-combat injuries."

Almost 10,000 wounded have gone home. That's the size of Carbondale, PA.
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Old 11-02-2006, 01:00 PM   #3
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May Misters Kirby and Smith be blessed by the Gods for their service to their country...regardless of whether any of us believe in the cause or not. To offer up your life for those of your countrymen is noble beyond anything most of us will ever be able to do, want to do, or have to do.

They're better men than I.
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Old 11-02-2006, 01:20 PM   #4
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That story brought tears to my eyes. Since he's such a great shot, I wish Cheney could be assigned with the rank of private to go over there and fight for a year or more. I wish he could take his best pal, Jr., along with him, also with the rank of private.
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Old 11-02-2006, 02:15 PM   #5
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Since he's such a great shot, I wish Cheney could be assigned with the rank of private to go over there and fight for a year or more.
No go, Mari. Big Dic would wipe out our forces inside of six months.
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Old 11-02-2006, 03:05 PM   #6
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Good on him.

I provided training on PTSD and Suicide Prevention to our local National Guard medic unit. They've already been to Iraq and are likely to be deployed again.
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Old 11-02-2006, 03:08 PM   #7
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There's an article in USA Today about soldiers suffering from PTSD who are mustered out with less than Honorable Discharges because of their aberrant behaviors (drugs, booze, violence, psychosis), and subsequently denied VA care and treatment because of their discharge status.

"I'm sorry, you're too crazy to kill for your country. You're fired. No benefits. Next!"
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Old 11-02-2006, 04:36 PM   #8
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I knew a simple soldier boy
Who grinned at life in empty joy,
Slept soundly through the lonesome dark,
And whistled early with the lark.

In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
With crumps and lice and lack of rum,
He put a bullet through his brain.
No one spoke of him again...
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
Sneak home and pray you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.

Siegfried Sassoon
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Old 11-02-2006, 05:48 PM   #9
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No go, Mari. Big Dic would wipe out our forces inside of six months.
I think they'd both be fragged within six weeks.

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Old 11-03-2006, 08:35 PM   #10
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Marichiko, that attitude does the Republic no good, as it promotes our Republic losing this war.

You'll note that I simply never ever do that. I remain pure.
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Old 11-03-2006, 08:53 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Hippikos
I knew a simple soldier boy
Who grinned at life in empty joy,
Slept soundly through the lonesome dark,
And whistled early with the lark.

In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
With crumps and lice and lack of rum,
He put a bullet through his brain.
No one spoke of him again...
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
Sneak home and pray you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.

Siegfried Sassoon
Thank you for posting that.
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Old 11-03-2006, 09:05 PM   #12
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You'll note that I simply never ever do that. I remain pure.
You certainly do....you certainly do
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Old 11-03-2006, 09:16 PM   #13
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Most folks don't know the relationship between a Marine Platoon and their DOC , ship happens , you yell "COR-MAN UP !!!" and he comes RUNNING , no matter what is happening , and EVERY Marine WILL FIGHT TO THE DEATH to protect him , NO MATTER WHAT !!!
When I was In we had some OUT STANDING Docs !!
And few SUCK ASS Useless F**kSticks !!!
This MAN is doing it RIGHT !!!
I would GLADLY serv with him !!!
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Old 11-03-2006, 09:59 PM   #14
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Medics are Navy, aren't they Zip?
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Old 11-03-2006, 10:15 PM   #15
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Medics are Navy, aren't they Zip?

Yeppers !!

And Most of them have that Navy ATTATUDE ,, Some of them get over it after being in the field with the Marines for a while , going thru the same training , etc,,,
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