Personal Philosophies

elSicomoro · 03-12-2003, 07:28 PM

Somebody has to start a real thread in here...

When it comes to your own philosophy on life, what do you use/what's your general outlook? Who do you borrow from? What makes your philosophy stand out from others?

Elspode · 03-12-2003, 08:43 PM

My personal philosophy is based on my Wiccan path. It means a lot of things, but fundamentally it means that I alone am responsible for my actions. I cannot screw up and blame others for my screwups. I cannot hurt another without owning up to it and trying to make amends.

I can't blame society for my point of view about other races/religions/groups, I can't claim to be a victim of something just because I happen to be screwed up in the head in some way, and I can't ask Jesus to take away my sins because, frankly, that's not his job. It's mine.

There's more to it, but that's probably more than enough to start something, or to at least do my part to help keep something going.

elSicomoro · 03-16-2003, 12:30 PM

Aw, come on! No takers on this one except for my favorite moog geek and fellow Missourian? Geez!

Part of my personal philosophy is based on Abraham Maslow's Self-Actualization theory. He proposed it as a pyramid of sorts...each need must be met in order to achieve self-actualization, "to find self-fulfillment and realize one's potential" (from the above link).

Part of it is also spiritual. I believe that God has his/her mitts on everything that occurs in this world. He/she gives us the freewill to do things that we want, with the understanding that there will be benefits/consequences received later.

Lastly, there's the concept of time. I try as hard as I can to keep an eye on the past, grasp a firm understanding of the present, and maintain a view of not only the short-term future, but the long-term one as well.

Hey, it works for me.

juju · 03-16-2003, 04:10 PM

Well, I think it's too general of a question. Sure, I have lots of ideas and thoughts that I've developed over the years on how to deal with life. But I can't just spit them all out on demand. Why not ask me to recite the encyclopedia instead? :)

Griff · 03-16-2003, 06:02 PM

On a warm summer's evenin' on a train bound for nowhere,
I met up with the gambler; we were both too tired of sleep.
So we took turns at starin' out the window at the darkness
'Til boredom overtook us, and he began to speak.

He said, "Son, I've made a life out of readin' people's faces,
And knowin' what their cards were by the way they held their eyes.
So if you don't mind my sayin', I can see you're out of aces.
For a taste of your whiskey I'll give you some advice."

So I handed him my bottle and he drank down my last swallow.
Then he bumped a cigarette and asked me for a light.
And the night got deathly quiet, and his face lost all expression.
Said, "Son, If you're gonna play the gamble, boy, ya gotta learn to play it
right.

You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em,
Know when to walk away and know when to run.
You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table.
There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealin's done.

Now Ev'ry gambler knows that the secret to survivin'
Is knowin' what to throw away and knowing what to keep.
'Cause ev'ry hand's a winner and ev'ry hand's a loser,
And the best that you can hope for is to die in your sleep."

and when he'd finished speakin', he turned back towards the window,
Crushed out his cigarette and faded off to sleep.
And somewhere in the darkness the gambler, he broke even.
But in his final words I found an ace that I could keep.

You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em,
Know when to walk away and know when to run.
You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table.
There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealin's done.

You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em,
Know when to walk away and know when to run.
You never count you r money when you're sittin' at the table.
There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealin's done.

wolf · 03-16-2003, 06:32 PM

I've never really given a lot of thought to the major existential questions like "what's my philopsophy of life" beyond just living it ... taking part in the adventure and seeing where it leads.

hmmm. Mebbe I ought to start planning or something ... or should I go with the if it ain't broke, don't fix it philosophy ... but how would I tell if it's broke?

Mebbe I oughta just find a good set o' song lyrics, like my hero, Griff.

Undertoad · 03-16-2003, 07:08 PM

Won't you look up at the skyline
At the mortar, block, and glass
And check out the reflections in my eyes
See they always used to be there
Even when this was all was grass
And I sang and danced about a high-rise

And you were laughing at my helmet hat
Laughing at my torch

Go ahead and laugh all you want
I got my philosophy
And I trust it like the ground
That's why my philosophy
Keeps me walking when I'm falling down

I see that there is evil
And I know that there is good
And the in-betweens I never understood
Would you look at me I'm crazy
But I get the job done
I'm crazy but I get the job done

So go ahead and laugh all you want
I got my philosophy
And I trust it like the ground
That's why my philosophy
Keeps me walking when I'm falling down

I pushed you cause I loved you guys
I didn't realize
That you weren't having fun
And I dragged you up the stairs
And I told you to fly
You were flapping your arms
Then you started to cry, you were too high

Now you take this all for granted
You take the mortar, block, and glass
And you forget the speech that moved the stone
And it's really not that you can't see
The forest from the trees
You just never been out in the woods alone

So you can laugh all you want to
But I've got my philosophy
And I love you you're my friend
But you got no philosophy
Now it's time for this song to end

"Philosophy" - Ben Folds Five

elSicomoro · 03-16-2003, 07:12 PM

At least UT was considerate enough to name his song, unlike that other pirate.

elSicomoro · 03-16-2003, 07:18 PM

"Let's begin
what, where, why, or when
will all be explained
why destruction is a game
see I'm not insane
in fact, I'm kind of rational
when I be asking
yo, who is more dramatical
this one, that one
the white one or the black one
pick the punk
and I'll jump up to attack one
KRS-One is just the guy to lead a crew
right up to your face and dis you
everyone saw me on the last album cover
holding a pistol
something far from a lover
beside my brother
S-C-O-T
I just laughed
'cause no one can defeat me
this selection number two
is "My Philosophy"
number one
was "Poetry"
you know it's me
it's my philosophy
many artists got to learn
I'm not flammable
I don't burn
so please stop burnin'
and learn to earn respect
'cause that's just what
KR collects
see, what do you expect
when you rhyme like a soft punk
you walk down the street and get jumped
you got to have style
and learn to be original
and everybody's gonna wanna dis you
like me
we stood up for the South Bronx
and every sucka mc
had a response
you think we care?
I know that they are on the tip
my posse from the Bronx is thick
and we're real live
we walk correctly
a lot of suckas would like to forget me
but they can't
'cause like a champ
I have got a record
of knocking out the frauds in a second
on the mic
I believe that you should get loose
I haven't come to tell you I have juice
I just produce, create, innovate on a higher level
I'll be back
but for now just seckle

I'll play the nine
and you play the target
you all know my name so I guess I'll just start it
or should I say, "Start this"
I am an artist
of new concepts at their hardest
yo, cause I'm a teacher
and Scot is a scholar
it ain't about money
cause we all make dollars
that's why
I walk with my head up
when I hear wack rhymes
I get fed up
rap is like a set-up
a lot of games
a lot of suckas with colorful names
I'm so-and-so
I'm this
I'm that
huh, but they all just wick-wick-wack
I'm not white or red or black
I'm brown
from the Boogie Down
Productions
of course
our music be thumpin'
others say their bad
but they're buggin
let me tell you somethin' now
about hip hop
about D-Nice, Melodie,
and Scot La Rock
I'll get a pen, a pencil, a marker
mainly what I write is for the average New Yorker
some mc's be talkin' and talkin'
tryin' to show how black people are walkin"

--B.D.P. "My Philosophy"

novice day off · 03-17-2003, 04:57 AM

Do unto others.

jaguar · 03-17-2003, 05:06 AM

carpe diem

and

Qvanti canicvla illa in fenestra

Griff · 03-17-2003, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sycamore
At least UT was considerate enough to name his song, unlike that other pirate.

That's The Gambler by Kenny Rogers, matey.

elSicomoro · 03-17-2003, 07:58 AM

Better...arrrr!

Whit · 03-17-2003, 04:30 PM

     Sorry I didn't get to this sooner, busy week.

     Here's one that'll make all previous posters say, "Didn't I more or less say that?"

     'Do the best you can with what you've got'. I like it because the terms are so subjective it can be referring to almost anything. Have a nice day.

elSicomoro · 03-17-2003, 06:25 PM

Didn't I more or less say that?

03-12-2003, 07:28 PM	#1
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Personal Philosophies Somebody has to start a real thread in here... When it comes to your own philosophy on life, what do you use/what's your general outlook? Who do you borrow from? What makes your philosophy stand out from others?

03-12-2003, 08:43 PM	#2
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	My personal philosophy is based on my Wiccan path. It means a lot of things, but fundamentally it means that I alone am responsible for my actions. I cannot screw up and blame others for my screwups. I cannot hurt another without owning up to it and trying to make amends. I can't blame society for my point of view about other races/religions/groups, I can't claim to be a victim of something just because I happen to be screwed up in the head in some way, and I can't ask Jesus to take away my sins because, frankly, that's not his job. It's mine. There's more to it, but that's probably more than enough to start something, or to at least do my part to help keep something going. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

03-16-2003, 06:02 PM	#5
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	On a warm summer's evenin' on a train bound for nowhere, I met up with the gambler; we were both too tired of sleep. So we took turns at starin' out the window at the darkness 'Til boredom overtook us, and he began to speak. He said, "Son, I've made a life out of readin' people's faces, And knowin' what their cards were by the way they held their eyes. So if you don't mind my sayin', I can see you're out of aces. For a taste of your whiskey I'll give you some advice." So I handed him my bottle and he drank down my last swallow. Then he bumped a cigarette and asked me for a light. And the night got deathly quiet, and his face lost all expression. Said, "Son, If you're gonna play the gamble, boy, ya gotta learn to play it right. You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, Know when to walk away and know when to run. You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table. There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealin's done. Now Ev'ry gambler knows that the secret to survivin' Is knowin' what to throw away and knowing what to keep. 'Cause ev'ry hand's a winner and ev'ry hand's a loser, And the best that you can hope for is to die in your sleep." and when he'd finished speakin', he turned back towards the window, Crushed out his cigarette and faded off to sleep. And somewhere in the darkness the gambler, he broke even. But in his final words I found an ace that I could keep. You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, Know when to walk away and know when to run. You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table. There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealin's done. You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, Know when to walk away and know when to run. You never count you r money when you're sittin' at the table. There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealin's done. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-16-2003, 06:32 PM	#6
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I've never really given a lot of thought to the major existential questions like "what's my philopsophy of life" beyond just living it ... taking part in the adventure and seeing where it leads. hmmm. Mebbe I ought to start planning or something ... or should I go with the if it ain't broke, don't fix it philosophy ... but how would I tell if it's broke? Mebbe I oughta just find a good set o' song lyrics, like my hero, Griff. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

03-17-2003, 05:06 AM	#11
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	carpe diem and Qvanti canicvla illa in fenestra __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

03-16-2003, 12:30 PM	#3
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Aw, come on! No takers on this one except for my favorite moog geek and fellow Missourian? Geez! Part of my personal philosophy is based on Abraham Maslow's Self-Actualization theory. He proposed it as a pyramid of sorts...each need must be met in order to achieve self-actualization, "to find self-fulfillment and realize one's potential" (from the above link). Part of it is also spiritual. I believe that God has his/her mitts on everything that occurs in this world. He/she gives us the freewill to do things that we want, with the understanding that there will be benefits/consequences received later. Lastly, there's the concept of time. I try as hard as I can to keep an eye on the past, grasp a firm understanding of the present, and maintain a view of not only the short-term future, but the long-term one as well. Hey, it works for me.

03-16-2003, 04:10 PM	#4
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	Well, I think it's too general of a question. Sure, I have lots of ideas and thoughts that I've developed over the years on how to deal with life. But I can't just spit them all out on demand. Why not ask me to recite the encyclopedia instead? :)

03-16-2003, 07:08 PM	#7
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Won't you look up at the skyline At the mortar, block, and glass And check out the reflections in my eyes See they always used to be there Even when this was all was grass And I sang and danced about a high-rise And you were laughing at my helmet hat Laughing at my torch Go ahead and laugh all you want I got my philosophy And I trust it like the ground That's why my philosophy Keeps me walking when I'm falling down I see that there is evil And I know that there is good And the in-betweens I never understood Would you look at me I'm crazy But I get the job done I'm crazy but I get the job done So go ahead and laugh all you want I got my philosophy And I trust it like the ground That's why my philosophy Keeps me walking when I'm falling down I pushed you cause I loved you guys I didn't realize That you weren't having fun And I dragged you up the stairs And I told you to fly You were flapping your arms Then you started to cry, you were too high Now you take this all for granted You take the mortar, block, and glass And you forget the speech that moved the stone And it's really not that you can't see The forest from the trees You just never been out in the woods alone So you can laugh all you want to But I've got my philosophy And I love you you're my friend But you got no philosophy Now it's time for this song to end "Philosophy" - Ben Folds Five

03-16-2003, 07:12 PM	#8
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	At least UT was considerate enough to name his song, unlike that other pirate.

03-16-2003, 07:18 PM	#9
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	"Let's begin what, where, why, or when will all be explained why destruction is a game see I'm not insane in fact, I'm kind of rational when I be asking yo, who is more dramatical this one, that one the white one or the black one pick the punk and I'll jump up to attack one KRS-One is just the guy to lead a crew right up to your face and dis you everyone saw me on the last album cover holding a pistol something far from a lover beside my brother S-C-O-T I just laughed 'cause no one can defeat me this selection number two is "My Philosophy" number one was "Poetry" you know it's me it's my philosophy many artists got to learn I'm not flammable I don't burn so please stop burnin' and learn to earn respect 'cause that's just what KR collects see, what do you expect when you rhyme like a soft punk you walk down the street and get jumped you got to have style and learn to be original and everybody's gonna wanna dis you like me we stood up for the South Bronx and every sucka mc had a response you think we care? I know that they are on the tip my posse from the Bronx is thick and we're real live we walk correctly a lot of suckas would like to forget me but they can't 'cause like a champ I have got a record of knocking out the frauds in a second on the mic I believe that you should get loose I haven't come to tell you I have juice I just produce, create, innovate on a higher level I'll be back but for now just seckle I'll play the nine and you play the target you all know my name so I guess I'll just start it or should I say, "Start this" I am an artist of new concepts at their hardest yo, cause I'm a teacher and Scot is a scholar it ain't about money cause we all make dollars that's why I walk with my head up when I hear wack rhymes I get fed up rap is like a set-up a lot of games a lot of suckas with colorful names I'm so-and-so I'm this I'm that huh, but they all just wick-wick-wack I'm not white or red or black I'm brown from the Boogie Down Productions of course our music be thumpin' others say their bad but they're buggin let me tell you somethin' now about hip hop about D-Nice, Melodie, and Scot La Rock I'll get a pen, a pencil, a marker mainly what I write is for the average New Yorker some mc's be talkin' and talkin' tryin' to show how black people are walkin" --B.D.P. "My Philosophy"

03-17-2003, 04:57 AM	#10
novice day off Writer of Writings Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: aussie aussie aussie Posts: 14	Do unto others.

03-17-2003, 07:58 AM	#13
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Better...arrrr!

03-17-2003, 04:30 PM	#14
Whit Umm ... yeah. Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arkansas, USA Posts: 949	Sorry I didn't get to this sooner, busy week.      Here's one that'll make all previous posters say, "Didn't I more or less say that?"      'Do the best you can with what you've got'. I like it because the terms are so subjective it can be referring to almost anything. Have a nice day. __________________ A friend will help you move. A true friend will help you move a body.

03-17-2003, 06:25 PM	#15
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Didn't I more or less say that?

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