Impeding changes to our Health Care system

[piercehawkeye45]

I agree that the majority of political discussions have been worthless, hence why I don't jump in that often as well. And I shouldn't have put "ignores entire point of the thread", but that you always pop in with a condescending sarcastic one-liner, many of them being strawman arguments.

[tw]

Originally Posted by lookout123

Please find my most recent (other than this thread) attempt at "picking on" tw.

A simple ironic joke about neocons and Saddam - and instead you instead attack me in "Limbaugh" style. Extremism with its nastiness is everywhere.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by lookout123

...bitching over who sucks more republicans/democrats/obama...

Bush *always* sucks more.

[lookout123]

Originally Posted by tw

A simple ironic joke about neocons and Saddam - and instead you instead attack me in "Limbaugh" style. Extremism with its nastiness is everywhere.

Can you please quote my "Limbaugh" style attack so I can see the error of my ways before I repent?

[tw]

Originally Posted by lookout123

Can you please quote my "Limbaugh" style attack so I can see the error of my ways before I repent?

Because which was a greater threat? Any honest person has no problem with reality. Tthe entire Saddam threat was invented by neocons. The fact that reality is true is simple - and has nothing to due with me.

Meanwhile, accusing me of being Saddam hiding out in America - now that we can discuss. I might even confess.

Emma told me to say it. I must obey.

[lookout123]

You seem to have forgotten you meds again.

[xoxoxoBruce]

No, just can't afford them, have to go to Canada.

Here's why. http://www.visualeconomics.com/healt...ld_2010-03-01/

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by tw

Which was a greater threat to America? Neocons or Saddam? Obviously Neocons. They even invented the Saddam myths.

Neocons have been successful freedom fighters -- when we followed their kind of foreign policy philosophy we took down two totalitarian regimes, both of them about as nasty a set of tinpot third-world dictatorships as may be found, and inside the space of a year to boot.

You have never been, nor ever can be, a successful freedom fighter, so STFU before better men than you before you get backhanded into next week, you offensive prototalitarian, antidemocracy octopus twat.

Oh, and you occasion some invective too.

[SamIam]

As usual, Urbane carries the day. The creature from the swamp has returned.

[TheMercenary]

[xoxoxoBruce]

Freedom Fighters.

[TheMercenary]

Well Obama has thown down the Gauntlet. It should be interesting to see where it goes from her. And more interesting should be if they have the same number of votes as they thought they did earlier in the year.

[TheMercenary]

Another interesting observation.

Obama said, "The debate is over."

There never was a debate. There are two bills completely composed by one party.

[TheMercenary]

And the elephant in the Dems Room shows it's ugly head...

Democrats would kill healthcare over abortion

WASHINGTON, March 4 (Reuters) - A dozen House of Representatives Democrats opposed to abortion are willing to kill President Barack Obama's healthcare reform plan unless it satisfies their demand for language barring the procedure, Representative Bart Stupak said on Thursday.

"Yes. We're prepared to take responsibility," Stupak said on ABC's "Good Morning America" when asked if he and his 11 Democratic allies were willing to accept the consequences for bringing down healthcare reform over abortion.

"Let's face it. I want to see healthcare. But we're not going to bypass the principles of belief that we feel strongly about," he said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0421749120100304

[TheMercenary]

The real costs of Healthcare.

Then, in the Journal's unsigned editorial, is this gem:

No one in the political class has even tried to refute Mr. Ryan's arguments, though he made them directly to the president and his allies, no doubt because they are irrefutable. If Democrats are willing to ignore overwhelming public opposition to ObamaCare and pass it anyway, then what's a trifling dispute over a couple of trillion dollars?

At his press conference yesterday, Mr. Obama claimed that "my proposal would bring down the cost of healthcare for millions—families, businesses and the federal government." He said it is "fully paid for" and "brings down our deficit by up to $1 trillion over the next two decades." Never before has a vast new entitlement been sold on the basis of fiscal responsibility, and one reason ObamaCare is so unpopular is that Americans understand the contradiction between untold new government subsidies and claims of spending restraint. They know a Big Con when they hear one.

Any bill that counts 10 years of taxes but only six years of spending as a way to bring down the deficit is dishonest.

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/mary-kat...y-on-cost.html