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11-09-2019, 03:28 PM | #31 |
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This is the first I've heard of tw having... family. The very first.
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11-09-2019, 04:39 PM | #32 | ||
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Even The Don was elected only because he lies and insults people. That appeals to the emotional. We went through same with a book on strategic objectives in military strategy. You only read the first chapter and gave up. It was too complicated. And therefore did not realize, so well defined in that book, why America would have to return and fight that war all over again - resulting in most of the 5000 Americans uselessly killed there. But that is too long for an emotional person who needs everything explained in a soundbyte - a 140 character post. So you attack the messenger rather than address the topic. Learning reality from so many paragraphs is too hard. Better is to wait for the Central Committee to say what to believe. And that, sir, has always been why we will constantly disagree. I do not wait to be brainwashed by extremist talk show hosts. Meanwhile, xoxoxBruce has finally attempted to answer one of the questions. Quote:
His objectives are admirable. But the laws (amendments) that he is promoting are too vague, too broad, and too easily used to subvert personal rights. At least that is the analysis by some who use reason to make conclusions. These concepts and principles have been too little discussed to justify and sudden legal change. It is currently promoted using the same 'we don't need to learn' attitude that justified changing Daylight Savings Time. The proposal has pros and cons. Both would be discussed by moderates. Unfortunately a citation by sexobon demonstrates a one sided opinion. It does not discuss both pros and cons. And is therefore best ignored as if written by an extremist. What then follows are so many personal attacks that never answer the questions: Who is pushing all this? And why? What really is the objective? What really is the problem that must be solved? One can only conclude that most have opinions but could not even answer those simple questions. And that was the purpose of those questions. Separate moderates (who learn facts before having opinions) from extremists (who make conclusions from and justify their attacks only using emotion). Not surprising, so many cheapshots came from the usual suspects - who refused to answer any of those questions. Apparently because they could not. Curious is why UG did not immediately join in the usual personal attacks. That is expected from people who only want to 'wreck shit'. Since this is so long, I expect the usual disparaging comments devoid of any honest discussion. And find it curious that neither moderates nor progressives post in these discussions anymore. |
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11-09-2019, 05:08 PM | #33 |
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I did my own research and posted what I did up-thread because of what I found.
I was cryptic, not uninformed.
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11-09-2019, 05:25 PM | #34 | |
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The citation was also part of a linked article that gave background information for those willing to do their own research. Sexobon cites winners. Tw cries with losers. |
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11-10-2019, 07:57 AM | #35 | |
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11-10-2019, 08:17 AM | #36 |
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Noted is that tw was the last to get on board and then only after a decision had been handed down. Everyone else called it right prior.
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11-11-2019, 10:39 AM | #37 |
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11-11-2019, 04:21 PM | #38 |
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IKR?
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11-15-2019, 01:19 AM | #39 | |
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You are completely summed up by your bitternesses and prejudices and idées fixes. None here think of you as anything but a piñata. You demand that the world offend and injure you. Sure enough... compliance happens, happened, will further happen. You'll die alone. Having voted Democratic one last time.
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11-15-2019, 01:27 AM | #40 |
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Hell, I didn't hear a damn thing about it until I read it here.
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11-15-2019, 04:21 PM | #41 |
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11-19-2019, 04:43 PM | #42 |
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If we did, I didn't notice it in the voting booth, not the last election nor the one before.
Such proposition would appear on a general-election ballot -- that'd be every four years. With me, propositions have to meet a high bar; I most often vote No.
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11-19-2019, 09:38 PM | #43 | |
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Since the ballot is locked in long before the polls open, we should be able to see our ballot on-line weeks before the polls open. Just wondering why nobody thought it necessary? Google, et al could earn significant advertising money doing this across the country. |
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11-19-2019, 10:15 PM | #44 |
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The PA LWV became more interested in their political side than their voter education side.
I watched it happen when I attended the state convention in 1997. |
11-19-2019, 11:34 PM | #45 |
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This last election I was greeted, as usual, with a dozen people lining the last 30 feet to the door trying to had out pamphlets for their candidate. Body language and glare usually make them back off, but there was a keyed up newbie overachiever this time. I didn't take his pamphlet but I did stop and tell him, if someone gets to this point and doesn't know who they're voting for they shouldn't be allowed to vote. He didn't know what to say but the regulars laughed.
I wonder if the LWV backed off because for the weeks leading up to the election our mailboxes are stuffed with literature every damn day.
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