1/9/2006: Dog fight - Page 2

mrnoodle · 01-10-2006, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sun_Sparkz

Boxers choose to fight. boxers wear big thick gloves and mouth guards and get paid lots of money. The dont get limbs torn off, repeatedly bitten, and often die.. for nothing. Worse than nothing.

Look at these men in the shot.. shadows of men. pathetic. I hope one day the dogs turn on them.

Mike Tyson is a whole lot like one of those dogs -- he even bites parts off. And for what? Sure, he got a big paycheck, but his handlers got the lion's share. And he's a wreck of a human being. What does money mean to him now?

Take a look at the face of either boxer at the end of 12 rounds: Does it look like their soft cushy gloves and mouthguards saved them from harm?

The only difference in this spectacle and one at Caesar's Palace is the price of the ticket and the amount of money the bookies take in. Whether it's a dog, a quail, or a human being, a fighter serves only one purpose in today's society: to entertain people who like to watch fighting. Whether that's right or wrong is in the eye of the beholder, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking that we're somehow more "cultured" than these Afghani goons.

VinDurzle · 01-10-2006, 10:18 AM

nice mrnoodle nice....

Trilby · 01-10-2006, 10:51 AM

I don't think that *I* or *we* (meaning the US/UK or similar) is more cultured. I think the majority of us are more civilized (note I said 'majority'. I worked with a woman whose husband had fighting chickens. Gross.) Fighting for sport, whether man or beast, is not very civilized. It certainly can be part of the culture, though.

Wombat · 01-10-2006, 05:59 PM

Whenever I see two dogs meet they always wag their tails and sniff each other's butts. What makes these ones fight?

xoxoxoBruce · 01-10-2006, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gaidin

there are more important things in the world to be offended and worried about than dog fights. and i know people gonna say i'm not being sympathetic but i am. i don't think it should happen but there are worse things.

Welcome to the Cellar, gaiden.

Of course your right, but we can't bitch about more than 1 or 2 a day. Stick around and we'll get to your pet peeve eventually. Better yet, submit your bitches in a forum thread and make the Cellar and the World a better place.

Sun_Sparkz · 01-11-2006, 12:24 AM

Boxers have one thing these dogs dont have: CHOICE. they can walk away and be a bricky, a builder, a pilot, a dole bludger. These dogs dont have that choice, they are mistreated animals, bred to be aggressive and forced to fight their peers whether they like it or not. The people who get financial gain from this firstly should be ashamed, and people who see this as entertainment should be equally ashamed.

joelnwil · 01-11-2006, 07:30 AM

I think that this just shows that there are parts of the world where civilization has been slow to come. Of course, there were some people in Virginia doing cock fights, but at least it was illegal.

What on earth is a dole bludger? Does it pay well? Should I come out of retirement to be one?

wolf · 01-11-2006, 10:17 AM

Australian slang gets a bit wacky sometimes, but I think it means a lazy person on welfare and/or unemployment.

fargon · 01-11-2006, 11:55 AM

I makes me sad, but we cant say any thing about thier culture. I am gonna cry now.

Troubleshooter · 01-11-2006, 12:55 PM

Why not?

If no one ever said anything we'd never actually get anything accomplished towards fixing things that are wrong.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-11-2006, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Wombat

Whenever I see two dogs meet they always wag their tails and sniff each other's butts. What makes these ones fight?

Maybe they feel they're defending their masters?

warch · 01-11-2006, 04:04 PM

Quien es mas macho?!
Pretty universal drive, it seems.

capnhowdy · 01-11-2006, 05:25 PM

For thousands of years we have endeavored to domesticate these animals, with the result of profound comradery.
Most of them will protect us with their lives. This is their reward? Come on.... this is just downright wrong.
Plus..... they have eyebrows.

For me to encourage my dog(s) .... I have three, to fight would be the same TO ME as allowing my kids to fight outside of self defense. But what do I know. We won't be having any dog fights at Capnhowdy's house. I won't be a spectator either. So there.

If folks want to ram a pineapple up their ass, then they may do so. I think I'll pass. Likewise w/ the dog fights.

keryx · 01-11-2006, 09:41 PM

Dog fighting. Repulsive. I think that a culture that condemns rather than condones animal fighting would have the edge on that moral question.

I don't like human fighting, either. But humans can and will make decisions that only hurt themselves. It's their life.

Fighting dogs are trained that way, by humans; it's stupid human decisions, not dog decisions, that bring about these situations, so ultimately the humans are at fault. It's abuse of an animal that we have over thousands of years bred to be a companion.

Sundae · 01-12-2006, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf

Australian slang gets a bit wacky sometimes, but I think it means a lazy person on welfare and/or unemployment.

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Originally Posted by fargon

I makes me sad, but we cant say any thing about thier culture. I am gonna cry now.

Harsh words about Australia surely

01-10-2006, 10:51 AM	#18
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	I don't think that I or we (meaning the US/UK or similar) is more cultured. I think the majority of us are more civilized (note I said 'majority'. I worked with a woman whose husband had fighting chickens. Gross.) Fighting for sport, whether man or beast, is not very civilized. It certainly can be part of the culture, though. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

01-10-2006, 05:59 PM	#19
Wombat (marsupial with backward-facing pouch) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canberra Posts: 251	Whenever I see two dogs meet they always wag their tails and sniff each other's butts. What makes these ones fight? __________________ If you don't do it properly, you'll get to the pub sooner.

01-11-2006, 12:24 AM	#21
Sun_Sparkz Has Body Temperature Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: I come from a land downunder Posts: 1,105	Boxers have one thing these dogs dont have: CHOICE. they can walk away and be a bricky, a builder, a pilot, a dole bludger. These dogs dont have that choice, they are mistreated animals, bred to be aggressive and forced to fight their peers whether they like it or not. The people who get financial gain from this firstly should be ashamed, and people who see this as entertainment should be equally ashamed. __________________ We'll never be as young as we are right now

01-11-2006, 10:17 AM	#23
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Australian slang gets a bit wacky sometimes, but I think it means a lazy person on welfare and/or unemployment. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

01-11-2006, 11:55 AM	#24
fargon Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: La Crosse, WI Posts: 8,924	I makes me sad, but we cant say any thing about thier culture. I am gonna cry now. __________________ Annoy the ones that ignore you!!! I live a blessed life I Love my Country, I Fear the Government!!! Heavily medicated for the good of mankind.

01-10-2006, 10:18 AM	#17
VinDurzle no excuse for being obtuse Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 14	nice mrnoodle nice....

01-11-2006, 07:30 AM	#22
joelnwil Major Inhabitant Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Silver Spring MD Posts: 128	I think that this just shows that there are parts of the world where civilization has been slow to come. Of course, there were some people in Virginia doing cock fights, but at least it was illegal. What on earth is a dole bludger? Does it pay well? Should I come out of retirement to be one?

01-11-2006, 12:55 PM	#25
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	Why not? If no one ever said anything we'd never actually get anything accomplished towards fixing things that are wrong. __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

01-11-2006, 04:04 PM	#27
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Quien es mas macho?! Pretty universal drive, it seems.

01-11-2006, 05:25 PM	#28
capnhowdy Blatantly Homosapien Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,200	For thousands of years we have endeavored to domesticate these animals, with the result of profound comradery. Most of them will protect us with their lives. This is their reward? Come on.... this is just downright wrong. Plus..... they have eyebrows. For me to encourage my dog(s) .... I have three, to fight would be the same *TO ME* as allowing my kids to fight outside of self defense. But what do I know. We won't be having any dog fights at Capnhowdy's house. I won't be a spectator either. So there. If folks want to ram a pineapple up their ass, then they may do so. I think I'll pass. Likewise w/ the dog fights. __________________ Please type slowly. I can't read very fast............... and no holy water, please.

01-11-2006, 09:41 PM	#29
keryx Mrs. Fargon Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: La Crosse, WI Posts: 85	Dog fighting. Repulsive. I think that a culture that condemns rather than condones animal fighting would have the edge on that moral question. I don't like human fighting, either. But humans can and will make decisions that only hurt themselves. It's their life. Fighting dogs are trained that way, by humans; it's stupid human decisions, not dog decisions, that bring about these situations, so ultimately the humans are at fault. It's abuse of an animal that we have over thousands of years bred to be a companion. __________________ Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger.

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