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02-21-2002, 01:28 AM | #1 | |||
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The back of the Department of Defense leaflets shows Osama bin Laden in Western-style dress. [UT could do better Photoshop.] Quote:
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02-21-2002, 02:30 AM | #2 |
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*international boxing ring*
and the Hogtied, myopic moron on the left, weiging in at 300lb - America! In the right we have......His shadow! Light as a feather and bound by no rules Assisted by The result of 20 odd years of godawful foreign policy. *sighs*
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Bin Laden in Iraq?
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There'd probably be support for an attack on any place that was found to be harboring bin Laden. What's your point?
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I said "reported to be there" and you said "found to be harboring" and my point is in the difference and the fact that some people don't see it.
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02-22-2002, 08:11 PM | #7 |
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Well... since you want to split hairs, I was assuming that your hypothetical report was the truth.
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02-22-2002, 08:18 PM | #8 |
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That's exactly the point of this whole thread ... whether hypothetical reports of the Office of Strategic Influence will be assumed to be true by the American public.
Can the OSI effectively manipulate public opinion in support of the war on terrorism by planting false statements in foreign press? |
02-22-2002, 08:33 PM | #9 |
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Oh. Gee... somehow, I missed that. I thought you were just making snotty little remarks about how the DoD can't be trusted to tell the truth.
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02-22-2002, 10:36 PM | #10 |
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And while it's been done by other governmental departments, Rumsfeld clarified that whilst they may engage in *military* disinformation, they won't be feeding the media a pack of intentional lies, and Rumsfeld has said and reiterated the other day that he won't lie to the media.
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02-23-2002, 01:40 AM | #11 | |
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I'm sorry but i have ot side wiht Nic here.
There are large calls inside Bush's administration to have a second go at what daddy didn't finish off last time, waht better way to justify it? No evidence has bene put forward - yet suddenly he's in Iraq. Considereing that Iraq is no friend of fundamentalist muslims is doesn't really make mush sense, even the kurdish rebels would be an unrelaible place to be caught. Quote:
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02-23-2002, 11:13 AM | #12 |
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The only "justification" needed to go into Iraq is whatever flimsy premise will maintain enough political will to get the job done.
I would far rather that the US not be the world's policeman, but removing the Iraqi regime would be a marvelous outcome by anyone's standards. It would sure be a great favor to the actual people of Iraq. I don't think Rumsfeld would lie to the press. I watch his live press conferences all the time. I do think he describes situations in ways favorable to his desired outcome. It would make a hell of a lot more sense if they would use pool reporters the way they did in the Gulf war. It would satisfy a lot of the press' needs in telling us what is really going on. |
02-23-2002, 03:20 PM | #13 |
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Flimsy excuses to go to war don't generally work - body bag political. 1 or two deaths is great, big media splash, huge funerals, autobiographies, half a ton of post humus medals doe honerably dieing but when the start adding up, the political tide can turn very, very quickly.
You've got Bin Laden - THE number one enemy - aparantly in Iraq - now that is a damn good excuse, a far better one than "oh well, we were in the area why not". Which is fine, if it had a scrap of truth to it, which i honestly find hard to beleive.
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02-23-2002, 04:24 PM | #14 |
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Based on what evidence, Jag?
Do I think he's in Iraq? No. Because I don't think Saddamn Hussein would be <b>that fucking stupid</b> to let that happen, and I think if he even smelled bin Laden getting close, he would kick his ass out. That having been said, I'm not aware of any evidence that rules out his movement to Iraq. I also don't think there's any good evidence that he's there. The Asia Times said it. Big deal. |
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Office of Strategic Influence is closed ... or so they say.
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