Stealing - Page 6

Pico and ME · 10-07-2008, 10:00 AM

Pie, I get where you are coming from. In a small community, external watchdogs arent normally needed to monitor malfeasance because the group will tend to police itself. And I think this is what occured in Ducks situation. Now that the problem is gone (the thief left), I would think that Duck could put the camera away until she needs it again.

jinx · 10-07-2008, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pie

That's why I haven't been responding full-out to cm, for what it's worth.I'm fed up with the talking-head mentality too.

CM's on my ignore list, mmm'kay?

Be the change you want to see in the world - Gandhi

classicman · 10-07-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pie

CM's on my ignore list, mmm'kay?

Mmmkay - Just another brick in the wall.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-08-2008, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DucksNuts

....apparently the time from 9-10 am is for breakfast that you didnt have at home and to apply your make-up

Are there customers waiting while this is going on?

DucksNuts · 10-08-2008, 06:30 PM

They tend to not book clients until 10...sneaky huh?

monster · 10-10-2008, 07:49 PM

Then I would tend not to pay them until 10....

Treasenuak · 10-11-2008, 12:40 PM

I'm with Monster. If they're not booking clients til ten but are on the PAYROLL before that, change the payroll! The girls shouldn't get paid for eating and doing makeup and the like at work... work is for work. HOME is for the breakfast thing. If you don't have time to eat/makeup/whatever before you leave for work, get your lazy ass out of bed half an hour earlier and MAKE the time... -trails off grumbling-

HungLikeJesus · 10-11-2008, 01:39 PM

I work at home, so it's always time to eat.

hamadryad · 10-12-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

There's also the chance that one's spouse is cheating, so do you have video cameras hidden in your bedroom?

Now, you know it has nothing to do with the impossibility of my spouse cheating... And I really wish you'd stop telling people the secrets to my financial success. Those tapes are valuable, I tell you! Valuable!!

Sundae · 10-12-2008, 03:06 PM

Actually I think the eating & make-up thing is give & take.
I've certainly been known to use salaried time in the Cellar, and when Dylan went missing I ran off colour copies of Cat Missing posters and fliers.

Okay, I actually do a fair amount for the company outside of working hours - not least shopping and going to the bank, which previous and current employees charge travel expenses for and I do shanks pony.

But surely every job has its perks and benefits.
If you explain to the staff that you are not "spying" on them, cameras are only used to check back in case of missing money, but they should remember that dossing about before 10.00 is only winked at by management, I'm sure everything will be fine.

Even without a camera, it might be worth reminding them that their pre-10.00 primping is at management discretion.

morethanpretty · 10-12-2008, 03:08 PM

I think its perfectly reasonable to keep the camera in place:
1) its already there
2) she will have to hire new people, good to be able to have the film in case anything pops up
3) customers could possible steal from the register too
4) crazy person comes in to shoot up the place/steal
I'm sure there are more reasons, but if you wait until there is another problem to re-implement the safety measures then the problem is probably harder to handle or larger than if it could have been caught/dealt with right away. Instead you have to re-do everything first. Sounds like now is a great time to make some positive changes for your business. Your employees are employees, not friends, they need to understand you're there to make a living and their actions are very important to the well-being of your company. They are expected to act like professionals, and you will treat them well with benefits, better pay ect as the business grows. That will create loyalty and good moral, a security system won't be a hassle if they understand that.

classicman · 10-12-2008, 03:20 PM

very well put MTP - except the camera isn't there yet. I was suggesting she have one installed for all the reasons you so aptly stated though.

10-10-2008, 07:49 PM	#81
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Then I would tend not to pay them until 10.... __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

10-11-2008, 01:39 PM	#83
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	I work at home, so it's always time to eat. __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

10-12-2008, 03:06 PM	#85
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Actually I think the eating & make-up thing is give & take. I've certainly been known to use salaried time in the Cellar, and when Dylan went missing I ran off colour copies of Cat Missing posters and fliers. Okay, I actually do a fair amount for the company outside of working hours - not least shopping and going to the bank, which previous and current employees charge travel expenses for and I do shanks pony. But surely every job has its perks and benefits. If you explain to the staff that you are not "spying" on them, cameras are only used to check back in case of missing money, but they should remember that dossing about before 10.00 is only winked at by management, I'm sure everything will be fine. Even without a camera, it might be worth reminding them that their pre-10.00 primping is at management discretion. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

10-12-2008, 03:08 PM	#86
morethanpretty Thats "Miss Zipper Neck" to you. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: little town (but not the littlest) in texas Posts: 2,957	I think its perfectly reasonable to keep the camera in place: 1) its already there 2) she will have to hire new people, good to be able to have the film in case anything pops up 3) customers could possible steal from the register too 4) crazy person comes in to shoot up the place/steal I'm sure there are more reasons, but if you wait until there is another problem to re-implement the safety measures then the problem is probably harder to handle or larger than if it could have been caught/dealt with right away. Instead you have to re-do everything first. Sounds like now is a great time to make some positive changes for your business. Your employees are employees, not friends, they need to understand you're there to make a living and their actions are very important to the well-being of your company. They are expected to act like professionals, and you will treat them well with benefits, better pay ect as the business grows. That will create loyalty and good moral, a security system won't be a hassle if they understand that. __________________ Addicts may suck dick for coke, but love came up with the idea to put a dick in there to begin with. -Jack O'Brien

10-12-2008, 03:20 PM	#87
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	very well put MTP - except the camera isn't there yet. I was suggesting she have one installed for all the reasons you so aptly stated though. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-07-2008, 10:00 AM	#76
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	Pie, I get where you are coming from. In a small community, external watchdogs arent normally needed to monitor malfeasance because the group will tend to police itself. And I think this is what occured in Ducks situation. Now that the problem is gone (the thief left), I would think that Duck could put the camera away until she needs it again.

10-08-2008, 06:30 PM	#80
DucksNuts Bitchy Little Brat Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 5,067	They tend to not book clients until 10...sneaky huh?

10-11-2008, 12:40 PM	#82
Treasenuak Multiorgasmic and wrapped in plastic Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Central Tennessee Posts: 483	I'm with Monster. If they're not booking clients til ten but are on the PAYROLL before that, change the payroll! The girls shouldn't get paid for eating and doing makeup and the like at work... work is for work. HOME is for the breakfast thing. If you don't have time to eat/makeup/whatever before you leave for work, get your lazy ass out of bed half an hour earlier and MAKE the time... -trails off grumbling-

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