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TheMercenary · 10-20-2011, 08:40 PM

._________________. a line.

ZenGum · 10-20-2011, 08:47 PM

Uhhhh, is this in the right thread?

TheMercenary · 10-20-2011, 08:54 PM

I guess not... I was reading about angry birds and that is where I posted it, immediately... My bad.

Sundae · 10-21-2011, 11:59 AM

Grandad's still hanging on, but is getting morphine twice daily now.
The doctor told Mum it's likely that he has prostate cancer, but it is too late to do any tests and certainly too late for treatment.

So he's in limbo to an extent.
Dying, yes, but not really with us either.

We have agreed the hymns for his funeral between us.
My sister came over with a suggestion last night, but it's not well known enough to include. No point having something people are hesitant about singing.

After she left, Mum said, "I told her we were choosing hymns and she obviously felt left out and came rushing over!"
Bless her. It was obvious and quite right that Mum had asked her for suggestions too. How could I be upset about that? Ah well.

Nirvana · 10-21-2011, 06:18 PM

Isn't it nice that your Grandad has a caring family?

He is so lucky you are all taking care of everything.

Someone cleaned out my bill paying bank account today. Not allot in it I only use this account to auto pay bills so when I got an over draft email I was shocked. After an hour on the phone [major annoying] all has been credited until the "investigation" concludes. [45 days]

I don't know how anyone would get that account card # unless one of my bill payees has been compromised. It's not used for anything else.

DanaC · 10-21-2011, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae

Grandad's still hanging on, but is getting morphine twice daily now.
The doctor told Mum it's likely that he has prostate cancer, but it is too late to do any tests and certainly too late for treatment.

So he's in limbo to an extent.
Dying, yes, but not really with us either.

We have agreed the hymns for his funeral between us.
My sister came over with a suggestion last night, but it's not well known enough to include. No point having something people are hesitant about singing.

After she left, Mum said, "I told her we were choosing hymns and she obviously felt left out and came rushing over!"
Bless her. It was obvious and quite right that Mum had asked her for suggestions too. How could I be upset about that? Ah well.

Ach. Hugs and warm thoughts, hon.

Nice that your mum was watchful of your feelings. At a time like this, that's kind of cool.

Aliantha · 10-21-2011, 07:15 PM

Why is it too late to do tests? They can always do tests to find out what's wrong. Maybe he just has kidney stones or something?

monster · 10-21-2011, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha

Why is it too late to do tests? They can always do tests to find out what's wrong. Maybe he just has kidney stones or something?

I believe he's only partially aware of his surroundings and very elderly. Too late in his life, not necessarily to late in the life of the cancer. Even if it was "just kidney stones", it sounds like he's too weak/far gone for any treatment to serve any purpose/be anything other than undignifying intrusions on his peace.

I could be wrong and if so, I apologise for my insensitivity.

Clodfobble · 10-21-2011, 08:05 PM

That's what I took it to mean as well. There was a point where they realized my elderly grandmother had some kind of cancer--but they said 1.) she wouldn't survive surgery or any kind of treatment for it, and 2.) it was a slow-growing kind and would take at least 2-3 years to kill her, and she was going to succumb to any number of other things long before that.

Aliantha · 10-22-2011, 02:12 AM

I was thinking of paliative relief really. Sometimes morphine is not the best drug or whatever. I just wondered.

Sundae · 10-22-2011, 02:28 AM

Monster and Clod were right - it's the fact that he's very frail now, rarely fully conscious and no longer even responds to Mum's voice. Occasionally she comes home and says he was aware or intelligible. Of course these are the times that make her cry more.

Re cancer, it's possible they've already tested his urine but are not willing to give him a biopsy?
I have to trust that the doctor who upped his morphine dose is prescribing in an informed way. I can't say any more than that, as it was filtered through Mum.

And no, I won't be offended by any questions or suggested answers.
This is the only place I get to discuss it openly, without having people wince.
Mum and I talk about it, but I have to tread a fine line between being objective so she feels she can depend on me, and being sensitive so she knows I care.

I'll have to start doing more for her.
At least I'm home next week. Even something as simple as making her a cup of tea when she gets back will share the love.

Big Sarge · 10-22-2011, 03:48 AM

he's led a long and full life. give him morphine for pain and let him go in peace. it's hard to do, but probably the only reasonable action.

SirFatty · 10-22-2011, 07:44 AM

Exchange 2003 problems, new hardware does not arrive until Monday. Harddrives getting harder to source (Thailand flooding). IT? Why did I choose it as a profession?

Nirvana · 10-22-2011, 09:20 AM

Injury added to insult by my bank

Quote:

We have completed our investigation of this claim and determined that an error did occur. We have sent a letter by mail with the details of our investigation.
Please refer to the letter for the final amount credited.

Ok but you made me cut up my f$%^ing card for your error!

Maybe I should charge them the $35 f6%^^ing dollars they were going to charge me for INSF.

Undertoad · 10-22-2011, 11:39 AM

Welcome SirF. and IT was definitely the wrong choice.

10-20-2011, 08:40 PM	#7216
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10-20-2011, 08:47 PM	#7217
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Uhhhh, is this in the right thread? __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

10-20-2011, 08:54 PM	#7218
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	I guess not... I was reading about angry birds and that is where I posted it, immediately... My bad. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

10-21-2011, 11:59 AM	#7219
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Grandad's still hanging on, but is getting morphine twice daily now. The doctor told Mum it's likely that he has prostate cancer, but it is too late to do any tests and certainly too late for treatment. So he's in limbo to an extent. Dying, yes, but not really with us either. We have agreed the hymns for his funeral between us. My sister came over with a suggestion last night, but it's not well known enough to include. No point having something people are hesitant about singing. After she left, Mum said, "I told her we were choosing hymns and she obviously felt left out and came rushing over!" Bless her. It was obvious and quite right that Mum had asked her for suggestions too. How could I be upset about that? Ah well. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

10-21-2011, 06:18 PM	#7220
Nirvana Back in 10 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,684	Isn't it nice that your Grandad has a caring family? He is so lucky you are all taking care of everything. Someone cleaned out my bill paying bank account today. Not allot in it I only use this account to auto pay bills so when I got an over draft email I was shocked. After an hour on the phone [major annoying] all has been credited until the "investigation" concludes. [45 days] I don't know how anyone would get that account card # unless one of my bill payees has been compromised. It's not used for anything else. __________________ Speaking simply... do not confuse this with having a simple mind.

10-21-2011, 07:15 PM	#7222
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Why is it too late to do tests? They can always do tests to find out what's wrong. Maybe he just has kidney stones or something? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

10-21-2011, 08:05 PM	#7224
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	That's what I took it to mean as well. There was a point where they realized my elderly grandmother had some kind of cancer--but they said 1.) she wouldn't survive surgery or any kind of treatment for it, and 2.) it was a slow-growing kind and would take at least 2-3 years to kill her, and she was going to succumb to any number of other things long before that. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

10-22-2011, 02:12 AM	#7225
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I was thinking of paliative relief really. Sometimes morphine is not the best drug or whatever. I just wondered. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

10-22-2011, 02:28 AM	#7226
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Monster and Clod were right - it's the fact that he's very frail now, rarely fully conscious and no longer even responds to Mum's voice. Occasionally she comes home and says he was aware or intelligible. Of course these are the times that make her cry more. Re cancer, it's possible they've already tested his urine but are not willing to give him a biopsy? I have to trust that the doctor who upped his morphine dose is prescribing in an informed way. I can't say any more than that, as it was filtered through Mum. And no, I won't be offended by any questions or suggested answers. This is the only place I get to discuss it openly, without having people wince. Mum and I talk about it, but I have to tread a fine line between being objective so she feels she can depend on me, and being sensitive so she knows I care. I'll have to start doing more for her. At least I'm home next week. Even something as simple as making her a cup of tea when she gets back will share the love. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

10-22-2011, 03:48 AM	#7227
Big Sarge Werepandas - lurking in your shadows Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In the Deep South Posts: 3,408	he's led a long and full life. give him morphine for pain and let him go in peace. it's hard to do, but probably the only reasonable action. __________________ Give a man a match, & he'll be warm for 20 seconds. But toss that man a white phosphorus grenade and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

10-22-2011, 07:44 AM	#7228
SirFatty Jotter of Notes Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Northwest burbs of Chicago Posts: 11	Server issues Exchange 2003 problems, new hardware does not arrive until Monday. Harddrives getting harder to source (Thailand flooding). IT? Why did I choose it as a profession?

10-22-2011, 11:39 AM	#7230
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Welcome SirF. and IT was definitely the wrong choice.

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