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Spexxvet · 10-26-2010, 08:09 AM

Rand Paul Supporters Violently Assault Female MoveOn Rep Outside KY-Sen Debate Site

xoxoxoBruce · 10-26-2010, 11:19 AM

Shawnee123 · 10-26-2010, 11:21 AM

Bunch of goddam fucking rednecks.

That head stomping guy needs shot in the face. Gave me flashbacks to American History X.

(late edit: AND flashbacks to The Tracy Thurmann story where the woman got her head stomped on repeatedly by her abusive ex fuck piece of shit goddam husband.)

Zero tolerance.

Flint · 10-26-2010, 11:39 AM

He didn't stomp on her head, his foot slipped!

while he was stomping on a different part of her

while she was on the ground getting B F I T M

SamIam · 10-26-2010, 12:22 PM

Kentucky can have their neo-nazi. I'm just glad I don't live there anymore. I looked him up and he sounds like the standard politician du jour, feeding the masses what they want to hear and not meaning a single word.

It warms my heart to see that he is apparently in the coal industry's hip pocket. The EPA's very shadow shall not desecrate eastern Kentucky's strip mines, slag heaps, unsightly tailings, etc. Let those hillbilly miners stay black on the outside to remind them of their role as Kentucky's perpetual underclass.

I sent Paul an e-mail on his campaign site demanding that he apologize to the lady in question. I'm not holding my breath.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-26-2010, 03:37 PM

His name is Mike Pezzano from the committee to organize that rally.

Happy Monkey · 10-26-2010, 04:02 PM

Another one, Tim Profitt, claims to be the actual head stomper. The article says he apologized, but the only provided details of the apology are that the camera angle made it look worse than it was, the police should have gotten involved, and that the victim had been reported to authorities.

Pico and ME · 10-26-2010, 04:36 PM

Tea partiers are some mean bad asses, huh. Thats just disgusting and seriously sick.

Bogart · 10-26-2010, 06:01 PM

Until people stop tearing each other apart, nothing is much likely to get done. You don't change someone's political leanings by giving their head a good stomping. It's not the individual that is to blame.

It's an odd thing to watch. I was rooting for the tea party, because it started as a real organization based in the solid beliefs of individuals who were pissed about the bailouts. Then Hannity, Palin and others stepped in to redirect and suddenly all talk of the bailouts was gone. That familiar mantra that "what's good for business is good for the individual" was touted and all talk is now seemingly back on the old course. I figure there are a few people out there with a clear vision, but mostly I see that people are easily manipulated.

One thing Obama has done is completely polarize the majority of the populous against the Democrats. Things are so bad that suddenly Bush is welcome. I see this as an indicator that the next president elect will be the biggest, baddest bastard to have come along yet. I'm guessing it will be Perry from Texas, but who really knows. I'm just positive it will be curtains for all of us.

One thing is for certain, government never relinquishes power.

piercehawkeye45 · 10-26-2010, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogart

Until people stop tearing each other apart, nothing is much likely to get done. You don't change someone's political leanings by giving their head a good stomping.

True. Molotov Cocktails work much better.

Although honestly I don't see civilian political extremism necessarily as bad as long as it doesn't go too far. They are the ones that will actually get shit done compared to moderates. It's when political extremism gets into the government that we get a problem. Civilians can only push politics one way or another, elected officials can do some real damage.

Shawnee123 · 10-26-2010, 06:50 PM

You call stomping a person on the head on a curb "civilian political extremism?" I ask this in the knowledge that this is your first contribution to this thread, therefore not very negotiable by way of past posts or some sort of nuance I might have missed.

That's a lovely turn of phrase for an ugly act.

Bogart · 10-26-2010, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

True. Molotov Cocktails work much better.

Although honestly I don't see civilian political extremism necessarily as bad as long as it doesn't go too far. They are the ones that will actually get shit done compared to moderates. It's when political extremism gets into the government that we get a problem. Civilians can only push politics one way or another, elected officials can do some real damage.

I cheer both sides, as long as someone is getting up and doing something, anything.... But I don't agree, or understand the hypocritical action of ganging up and shouting down someone countering your exercise of free speech. I guess that's what happens when frustration sets due to a lack of leadership and an inability to be clever with a calm head.

It was a despicable act. One lone voice amongst a sea of supporters and (possibly) the organizer decides it is a good idea to stomp their head? WTF? I'm sure the other 364 days he's a normal guy, but there's seriously something unresolved in his personality.

Extremism is effective because it involves goals and a clear vision. Induce a dose of altruism into your subjects and you are good to go with a rabid mob ahead of you. No politician has risen up yet which can seem to muster that kind of support, so we continue into the abyss. With all that has occurred, and is still happening, you'd think someone could rally a little righteous indignation amongst the people.

....and I don't mean by pitting them against each other.

Anarchy is effective too, but it always ends the same way. Some leader rises from the ashes and ends up a dictator.

piercehawkeye45 · 10-26-2010, 07:05 PM

Shawnee:
Assault would fall under the "goes too far" category. The views of the more extreme tea partiers would be under "civilian political extremism".

The tea party has potential to make a positive impact on our deficit and it is the more extreme members that will get the most done. The more extreme members will be the ones that have the motivation to do more activism and whatnot compared to moderate tea partiers. Whether they are actually having a positive impact is another story.

Political extremists will be the ones that shift the politics to one side (think labor laws and anarchists or civil and womens rights by activists who were considered extremists at the time) and the moderates will, ideally, prevent them from going too far.

Although, this only applies to intelligent political activists that actually know how to shift political opinion. Terrorism will not shift political opinion. Stomping someone's face into the curb will not shift political opinion. Killing animals to "free them from injustice" will not shift political opinion.

Also, when political extremists get elected into office they have much more power and will do much more damage.

Bogart · 10-26-2010, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

You call stomping a person on the head on a curb "civilian political extremism?" I ask this in the knowledge that this is your first contribution to this thread, therefore not very negotiable by way of past posts or some sort of nuance I might have missed.

That's a lovely turn of phrase for an ugly act.

I'm guessing this falls under his "as long as it doesn't go too far." qualifier.

piercehawkeye45 · 10-26-2010, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogart

Extremism is effective because it involves goals and a clear vision. Induce a dose of altruism into your subjects and you are good to go with a rabid mob ahead of you. No politician has risen up yet which can seem to muster that kind of support, so we continue into the abyss. With all that has occurred, and is still happening, you'd think someone could rally a little righteous indignation amongst the people.

....and I don't mean by pitting them against each other.

I don't think Americans will get too violent even if a leaders tries that route. Palin and Obama have gotten a lot of support and I don't think anyone more extreme will be able to accomplish what they have. Americans are very good at complaining but I see very few actually resorting to violence unless it gets REALLY bad economically.

10-26-2010, 08:09 AM	#1
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10-26-2010, 11:19 AM	#2
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10-26-2010, 11:21 AM	#3
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Bunch of goddam fucking rednecks. That head stomping guy needs shot in the face. Gave me flashbacks to American History X. (late edit: AND flashbacks to The Tracy Thurmann story where the woman got her head stomped on repeatedly by her abusive ex fuck piece of shit goddam husband.) Zero tolerance. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby Last edited by Shawnee123; 10-26-2010 at 11:42 AM.

10-26-2010, 11:39 AM	#4
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	He didn't stomp on her head, his foot slipped! while he was stomping on a different part of her while she was on the ground getting B F I T M __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

10-26-2010, 03:37 PM	#6
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	His name is Mike Pezzano from the committee to organize that rally. Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-26-2010, 12:22 PM	#5
SamIam Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Not here Posts: 2,655	Kentucky can have their neo-nazi. I'm just glad I don't live there anymore. I looked him up and he sounds like the standard politician du jour, feeding the masses what they want to hear and not meaning a single word. It warms my heart to see that he is apparently in the coal industry's hip pocket. The EPA's very shadow shall not desecrate eastern Kentucky's strip mines, slag heaps, unsightly tailings, etc. Let those hillbilly miners stay black on the outside to remind them of their role as Kentucky's perpetual underclass. I sent Paul an e-mail on his campaign site demanding that he apologize to the lady in question. I'm not holding my breath.

10-26-2010, 04:02 PM	#7
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Another one, Tim Profitt, claims to be the actual head stomper. The article says he apologized, but the only provided details of the apology are that the camera angle made it look worse than it was, the police should have gotten involved, and that the victim had been reported to authorities. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

10-26-2010, 04:36 PM	#8
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	Tea partiers are some mean bad asses, huh. Thats just disgusting and seriously sick. Last edited by Pico and ME; 10-26-2010 at 04:48 PM.

10-26-2010, 06:01 PM	#9
Bogart Gustatus similis pullus Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 9	Until people stop tearing each other apart, nothing is much likely to get done. You don't change someone's political leanings by giving their head a good stomping. It's not the individual that is to blame. It's an odd thing to watch. I was rooting for the tea party, because it started as a real organization based in the solid beliefs of individuals who were pissed about the bailouts. Then Hannity, Palin and others stepped in to redirect and suddenly all talk of the bailouts was gone. That familiar mantra that "what's good for business is good for the individual" was touted and all talk is now seemingly back on the old course. I figure there are a few people out there with a clear vision, but mostly I see that people are easily manipulated. One thing Obama has done is completely polarize the majority of the populous against the Democrats. Things are so bad that suddenly Bush is welcome. I see this as an indicator that the next president elect will be the biggest, baddest bastard to have come along yet. I'm guessing it will be Perry from Texas, but who really knows. I'm just positive it will be curtains for all of us. One thing is for certain, government never relinquishes power.

10-26-2010, 06:50 PM	#11
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	You call stomping a person on the head on a curb "civilian political extremism?" I ask this in the knowledge that this is your first contribution to this thread, therefore not very negotiable by way of past posts or some sort of nuance I might have missed. That's a lovely turn of phrase for an ugly act. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

10-26-2010, 07:05 PM	#13
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Shawnee: Assault would fall under the "goes too far" category. The views of the more extreme tea partiers would be under "civilian political extremism". The tea party has potential to make a positive impact on our deficit and it is the more extreme members that will get the most done. The more extreme members will be the ones that have the motivation to do more activism and whatnot compared to moderate tea partiers. Whether they are actually having a positive impact is another story. Political extremists will be the ones that shift the politics to one side (think labor laws and anarchists or civil and womens rights by activists who were considered extremists at the time) and the moderates will, ideally, prevent them from going too far. Although, this only applies to intelligent political activists that actually know how to shift political opinion. Terrorism will not shift political opinion. Stomping someone's face into the curb will not shift political opinion. Killing animals to "free them from injustice" will not shift political opinion. Also, when political extremists get elected into office they have much more power and will do much more damage. __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

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