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08-18-2002, 01:02 AM

Virtual PC.

jaguar · 08-18-2002, 01:07 AM

any idea how well it runs?

08-18-2002, 11:58 AM

Slow but sure.

jaguar · 08-19-2002, 01:49 AM

One step closer to a G4 laptop

....gotta keep saving......

08-19-2002, 09:18 AM

My computer loan is up again in June; I'm probably going to skip the new PowerMacs (my dual 800 is still hella fast, and Jaguar will only make it more so) and get a top-of-the-line PowerBook. They are quite the laptop.

Anyway, most important stuff runs OS X native (Photoshop, etc), and you can find replacements for most everything else. I imagine you'll be happy with it.

If you have any questions, let me know. I have a pretty thorough knowledge of the PowerBook and MacOS X, and anything I don't know I can ask an Apple Genius at the Apple Store.

russotto · 08-19-2002, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nic Name
Under the plan, which will coincide with next week's release of Mac OS X version 10.2 (also known as Jaguar), consumers can buy a $199 a copy of the operating system and install it on up to five Macs in a single household.

Gee, that's nice of Apple.

I wonder if there actually ARE any honest-to-a-fault people who were going to buy multiple copies for their multiple home computers in the first place. (Certainly not me. But under the developer program, I can legally install on as many machines as I use for development and testing anyway, which is all of them)

08-19-2002, 01:39 PM

As I've stated before, fuck Apple on this one. I just ordered my education copy of MacOS X 10.2 and it's going to get installed on all 3 of my (purchased in the last 14 months) Macs. And probably Jenni's old iMac DV once I get a new hard drive in it. I didn't spend $8,000 on computers + countless more on software and accessories to get fucked on the operating system.

jaguar · 08-20-2002, 12:58 AM

Mmm k thanks. Only question that comes to mind is how well does linux go on the powerbooks? Other one would be linux apps under OSX, sure you've got console but how useful is it? Anyone got things like WINE working yet? Most of the dev stuff i've seen recently for mac (i've been looking around at ipod apps) has been cocca level stuff.

08-20-2002, 07:53 AM

Linux should work fine. I don't have a PowerBook to test it on, but I have YellowDog 2.2 loaded on my iBook and it's great. All the special keys (volume up/down/mute, brightness, etc) work fine, as does the Airport card, etc. YellowDog is based on RedHat, so the structure should be pretty familiar to most anyone.

As for Linux apps running natively on OS X, you probably want to check out fink @ http://fink.sourceforge.net - it's a project dedicated to porting UNIX applications to MacOS X. I've got a screenshot around here somewhere of xchat (Linux app) running under Sawfish (Linux Window Manager) under a rootless X display (X as in X11), sitting beside MacOS X native Cocoa apps. It's pretty slick, and more stuff is being added all the time (I myself am working on a few ports).

I don't know about WINE specifically, though I would guess that it hasn't been ported. You can check for that yourself - I really have no use for it, so I'm not very interested. However, I think you'll find that you can very easily make do with a PowerBook. Just wait until the new revisions come out - they should be pretty tight, and definitely a better value than what you'd get if you bought now.

MaggieL · 08-20-2002, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jaguar
Anyone got things like WINE working yet?.

I would think porting WINE would be a big problem on a non Intel-arch system. The acronym WINE stands for WINE Is Not an Emulator; only the Win32 calls are emulated, the x86 instructions are executed natively.

jaguar · 08-20-2002, 06:21 PM

Good point maggie. I was primarily interested as a fast way to use allot of apps I won't be able to get hold of mac versions of for a while yet, and some for which mac equivalent of the same caliber do not exist at all. Ah well ill look atound and see what i can dig up, i'm still pretty set on the G4 laptops.

Scred · 08-23-2002, 08:24 PM

http://www.ultramicroscopic.com/images4/MSwitch.html

http://www.ultramicroscopic.com/images4/ESwitch.html

http://www.ultramicroscopic.com/images4/switch.html

08-24-2002, 11:08 AM

mmmmmmmmm... yummmmmmmmy

Slight · 08-30-2002, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dhamsaic

mmmmmmmmm... yummmmmmmmy

What kind of sick bastard are you? iBook, G4 Ti, Airport base station, iPod along with the rest of you booty, but then you flaunt X.2 to the jaguireless. That my friend is evil.

All the switch parodies are hilarious cept the prOn freak.

Nic Name · 08-30-2002, 11:53 PM

I keep lookin' for the dham switch parody. Has anyone got one?

08-18-2002, 01:07 AM	#17
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	any idea how well it runs? __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

08-19-2002, 01:49 AM	#19
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	One step closer to a G4 laptop ....gotta keep saving...... __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

08-20-2002, 12:58 AM	#23
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	Mmm k thanks. Only question that comes to mind is how well does linux go on the powerbooks? Other one would be linux apps under OSX, sure you've got console but how useful is it? Anyone got things like WINE working yet? Most of the dev stuff i've seen recently for mac (i've been looking around at ipod apps) has been cocca level stuff. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

08-20-2002, 06:21 PM	#26
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	Good point maggie. I was primarily interested as a fast way to use allot of apps I won't be able to get hold of mac versions of for a while yet, and some for which mac equivalent of the same caliber do not exist at all. Ah well ill look atound and see what i can dig up, i'm still pretty set on the G4 laptops. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

08-23-2002, 08:24 PM	#27
Scred Wharf Rat Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Galaxy Seven, near Phoenixville Posts: 71	My name is Mac - switch http://www.ultramicroscopic.com/images4/MSwitch.html http://www.ultramicroscopic.com/images4/ESwitch.html http://www.ultramicroscopic.com/images4/switch.html Last edited by Scred; 08-23-2002 at 08:29 PM.

08-18-2002, 11:58 AM	#18
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Slow but sure.

08-19-2002, 09:18 AM	#20
dave Guest Posts: n/a	My computer loan is up again in June; I'm probably going to skip the new PowerMacs (my dual 800 is still hella fast, and Jaguar will only make it more so) and get a top-of-the-line PowerBook. They are quite the laptop. Anyway, most important stuff runs OS X native (Photoshop, etc), and you can find replacements for most everything else. I imagine you'll be happy with it. If you have any questions, let me know. I have a pretty thorough knowledge of the PowerBook and MacOS X, and anything I don't know I can ask an Apple Genius at the Apple Store.

08-19-2002, 01:39 PM	#22
dave Guest Posts: n/a	As I've stated before, fuck Apple on this one. I just ordered my education copy of MacOS X 10.2 and it's going to get installed on all 3 of my (purchased in the last 14 months) Macs. And probably Jenni's old iMac DV once I get a new hard drive in it. I didn't spend $8,000 on computers + countless more on software and accessories to get fucked on the operating system.

08-20-2002, 07:53 AM	#24
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Linux should work fine. I don't have a PowerBook to test it on, but I have YellowDog 2.2 loaded on my iBook and it's great. All the special keys (volume up/down/mute, brightness, etc) work fine, as does the Airport card, etc. YellowDog is based on RedHat, so the structure should be pretty familiar to most anyone. As for Linux apps running natively on OS X, you probably want to check out fink @ http://fink.sourceforge.net - it's a project dedicated to porting UNIX applications to MacOS X. I've got a screenshot around here somewhere of xchat (Linux app) running under Sawfish (Linux Window Manager) under a rootless X display (X as in X11), sitting beside MacOS X native Cocoa apps. It's pretty slick, and more stuff is being added all the time (I myself am working on a few ports). I don't know about WINE specifically, though I would guess that it hasn't been ported. You can check for that yourself - I really have no use for it, so I'm not very interested. However, I think you'll find that you can very easily make do with a PowerBook. Just wait until the new revisions come out - they should be pretty tight, and definitely a better value than what you'd get if you bought now.

08-24-2002, 11:08 AM	#28
dave Guest Posts: n/a	mmmmmmmmm... yummmmmmmmy

08-30-2002, 11:53 PM	#30
Nic Name retired Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,930	I keep lookin' for the dham switch parody. Has anyone got one?

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