Flu shot, or not? - Page 4

jinx · 10-22-2007, 08:48 PM

Ah, but you missed out on the phthalates laden chew toys as a baby, UT...

Undertoad · 10-22-2007, 09:00 PM

I had the asthma bad though.

jinx · 10-22-2007, 09:14 PM

Do infections protect against asthma and atopy (ie. eczema).

richlevy · 10-22-2007, 10:37 PM

I just got my shot today.

As for the mercury preservatives in vaccines, I've been following the debate. Our son is autistic, so we are of course concerned that their is the possibility that something we did to protect him injured him.

I don't know if it's going to turn out be be Thimerosal, or just a reaction to a combination of vaccines, but the statistics for Autism in the US are frightening and seem to indicate that the cause might be something more prevalent in the US than elsewhere in the world.

I don't know if they have the same number and type of vaccinations in Europe, so that's a place to start.

Cloud · 10-22-2007, 10:50 PM

Jinx: It pays to be skeptical about health claims!

Clodfobble · 10-23-2007, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by richlevy

I don't know if they have the same number and type of vaccinations in Europe, so that's a place to start.

Europe is where they first completely outlawed thimerosal in vaccines several years ago, and autism rates there have continued to rise.

Cicero · 10-23-2007, 11:42 AM

From e-medicine.

~Mercury in any form is toxic. The difference lies in how it is absorbed, the clinical signs and symptoms, and the response to treatment modalities. Mercury poisoning can result from vapor inhalation, ingestion, injection, or absorption through the skin.~

monster · 10-23-2007, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by richlevy

that the cause might be something more prevalent in the US than elsewhere in the world.

Better diagnostic skills and more willingness to diagnose/understand/"label"?

just pondering, not trying to be confrontational....

richlevy · 10-23-2007, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by monster

Better diagnostic skills and more willingness to diagnose/understand/"label"?

just pondering, not trying to be confrontational....

I had the same thought and I haven't rejected or tied myself to any theory. 'Autism spectrum' runs the gamut from 'Rain Man' to Aspergers. An Aspergers label could be attached to almost any socially awkward individual.

In some cases an Autism label might be key to some kind of funding, and since it is more of a symptom than a disease that can be quantified, case workers might be tempted to over apply the label.

Still, the sheer numbers seem to point to something concrete.

Elspode · 10-23-2007, 10:38 PM

Got one last Friday. Third year in a row.

monster · 10-23-2007, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Elspode

Got one last Friday. Third year in a row.

yay!

.....sorry, what was the question?

beauregaardhooligan · 10-24-2007, 07:41 AM

As far as mercury exposure goes, coal-fired power plants are the biggest source.

monster · 10-26-2007, 10:19 AM

10-22-2007, 08:48 PM	#46
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10-22-2007, 09:14 PM	#48
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10-22-2007, 10:37 PM	#49
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	I just got my shot today. As for the mercury preservatives in vaccines, I've been following the debate. Our son is autistic, so we are of course concerned that their is the possibility that something we did to protect him injured him. I don't know if it's going to turn out be be Thimerosal, or just a reaction to a combination of vaccines, but the statistics for Autism in the US are frightening and seem to indicate that the cause might be something more prevalent in the US than elsewhere in the world. I don't know if they have the same number and type of vaccinations in Europe, so that's a place to start. __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

10-22-2007, 10:50 PM	#50
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10-23-2007, 11:42 AM	#52
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	From e-medicine. ~Mercury in any form is toxic. The difference lies in how it is absorbed, the clinical signs and symptoms, and the response to treatment modalities. Mercury poisoning can result from vapor inhalation, ingestion, injection, or absorption through the skin.~ __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

10-22-2007, 09:00 PM	#47
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I had the asthma bad though.

10-23-2007, 10:38 PM	#55
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Got one last Friday. Third year in a row. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

10-24-2007, 07:41 AM	#57
beauregaardhooligan Elite Elitist Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 323	As far as mercury exposure goes, coal-fired power plants are the biggest source.

10-26-2007, 10:19 AM	#58
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