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Old 07-11-2007, 05:43 PM   #16
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A similar tool is the 'Who's Online' option from the 'Quick Links' menu towards the upper-right of the page. There's nothing detailed, but you can tell when someone is around.
If you go to the bottom of the main page, there's a list of users online. There's a link called, I think 'currently active users' or somesuch. Click on that and it lists everyone online (and visible) and shows their activity (If they're looking at a particular thread, or forum menu, it will say. If they're modifying their profile, or registering their account, or replying to a thread, it'll show.) What's really cool about that, is that the searchbots are also listed and they look at all sorts of stuff so you may see a two year old thread suddenly listed, that you didn't catch the first time around and which is really interesting/relevant now.

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Old 07-11-2007, 05:55 PM   #17
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God, really? Feels like you've been here for ages.
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Hmm, is that a good or bad feeling?

At least I'm having fun checking out all the smilies.
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Old 07-11-2007, 05:56 PM   #18
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:56 PM   #19
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here you go

Ok here is the zip file. What song is it?
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:34 AM   #20
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Yeah, this is not my genre; I am clueless as to what the song is. I am quite impressed with this clip, though. That's really you beatboxing, vocalperk? Damn, that's pretty cool! I need to pay some serious attention to this now.
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Old 07-12-2007, 08:21 AM   #21
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Old 07-12-2007, 08:39 AM   #22
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  • the beatboxing went: bom ts kuh ts ts ts bu-kuh ts bom ts kuh ts ts ts bu-kuh
  • to get the rhythm of that beat box, each syllable is equally spaced apart and "bu-kuh" is said and spaced together like one syllable
I liked your description of the beat. This is actually how I jot down quick notes on songs (I'm a drummer and I don't read music).

I think method this is better, in a way, because of the "even spacing" you mentioned. You can tap out 8th notes while reading each syllable (or combination of syllables); your eye follows the beat like a timeline. This is opposed to traditional sheet music, where note spacing is defined by an abstract set of symbols. Of course, the even spacing only makes sense if there are no rest notes, but since 99% of the music we listen to has hi-hats on the 8th notes, this usually isn't a problem.

Quick Nit-Picking Observation: you've written out two measures, but left the last 8th note off.

1.....2..3....4..5..6..7.........8
bom ts kuh ts ts ts bu-kuh ts

1.....2..3....4..5..6..7.........8
bom ts kuh ts ts ts bu-kuh

Now, to your credit, the beat you recorded is exactly as I read it from your description, including the dropped 8th note.
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:06 AM   #23
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[thread highjack] Flint- do you play for fun or professionally? I have played for fun for about 25 years now. Sadly, I had to sell my set when I first got married and we were poor. Somehow, my wife always wants me to wait until we have an "extra room" for it, but every time we have moved to a larger place, she seems to have all of the rooms accounted for. I could push the issue, but I am just a sucker for her good looks and southern charms. [/thread highjack]
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:23 AM   #24
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To me, it sounds like

Standing Outside A Broken Phone Booth With Money In My Hand Lyrics
Artist: Primitive Radio Gods
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:45 AM   #25
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Flint: When I had time to do more vocal percussion and I would think of beats during the day to record later on I had to come up with some kind of shorthand and way of remembering the rhythm, so I did this type of thing with different sounds and syllables having only one way of being written. I would just put regularly spaced accent marks (ticks) above the syllables like a metronome and write the sounds out where they would fall in relation to the accent marks. A more syncopated beat would just require more accents closer together (like 16th instead of quarter).

I bought the song today, listened to it, and made some adjustments to my clip. My memory was only slightly off - it is still essentially the same rhythm, it's just that there were just no single "kuh" sounds, only "bu-kuh" sounds. I also added the final "ts" for Flint's comments......I had left it off originally because that is where the song part came in in my mind.

Then I looped it. I also added other things (the "wahhh"s I mentioned in my first post and some trumpet-y sounds, and also bass line). This is all me and all vocal. The harmonies/bass/trumpets are not perfect but it is good enough to see if anyone can get the song now. You should be able to I think. Quality may not be optimal b/c I had to convert to mp3 at a lower kbps rate to get the file size under allowable zip size.

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Old 07-13-2007, 09:34 AM   #26
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:00 PM   #27
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:45 PM   #28
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"Can't Take My Eyes Off of You", arguably a standard.

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Old 07-13-2007, 11:46 PM   #29
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@vocalperk: I used to play for a living, I still play out, some, but now I'm on-call 24/7 at my job so it complicates things. I've been doing mostly charity shows and church gigs.

Some thoughts regarding the shorthand beat notation: African rudiments are similarly communicated with vocal sounds, IE the Djembe strokes can be defined as "goon", "toh-doh" and "pa".

I have been using "si" as my hi-hat, but I like your "ts" better. My snares vary from "pa" to "ka" to "boosh" (ballads), etc. depending on context, rimshot, etc. and also use exclamation marks as necessary. My bass drums also vary depending on how and in what context it's being hit. There's also grace notes, ghost notes, double strokes, buzz rolls, etc.

I also use tick marks when necessary (you can actually tap your finger while watching the ticks in order to see where beats actually fall) but more often write out the numbers 1 through 8. For closer subdivisions I usually just place them inbetween the beats, or rely on the pronunciation of multi-syllabic groups to remember how the phrasing went. Sometimes I just place tick marks as rest notes where needed in the pattern.

I also have code-words for types of beats or approaches, like "Copeland" for instance, as a reference to frenetic high-hat embellishment.
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:23 AM   #30
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Whoooo... I'd hit that like I'm killin' a' snake.

Though, I prefer both Frankie and Andy's versions.



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