When it becomes Hillary v McCain - Page 11

classicman · 06-11-2008, 10:09 PM

Median household income was $46,326 in 2005, up 1.1 percent from 2004 after adjusting for inflation. This is the first annual increase in real median household income since 1999. Since 1967, the first year for which household income statistics are available, real median household income was up 30.9 percent

Clodfobble · 06-11-2008, 10:19 PM

During the 2004 election, the line in the sand that Kerry had drawn for his tax-the-rich plan was $250,000 a year. Though obviously the taxation plan itself met with much criticism, the public seemed to swallow the actual number as a reasonable definition of rich at the time.

lookout123 · 06-11-2008, 10:24 PM

that's because the public swallows the political hacks' strategy of class warfare hook, line, and sinker. show me the person who thinks anyone making $100/200/300K per year deserves to be taxed more and I'll show you someone who doesn't have the belief that they could ever earn that much. Or someone so disgustingly wealthy that they pay someone hundreds of thousands to ensure they don't pay taxes anyway...

Radar · 06-11-2008, 11:10 PM

$500k in Los Angeles is like $150k anywhere else in America...with the possible exception of New York City.

TheMercenary · 06-12-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

that's because the public swallows the political hacks' strategy of class warfare hook, line, and sinker. show me the person who thinks anyone making $100/200/300K per year deserves to be taxed more and I'll show you someone who doesn't have the belief that they could ever earn that much. Or someone so disgustingly wealthy that they pay someone hundreds of thousands to ensure they don't pay taxes anyway...

I assure you even 300k is far from disgustingly wealthy.

TheMercenary · 06-12-2008, 11:15 AM

Lets talk weath. I am starting a new thread in current events. I would appreciate it if you all came over and commented in an effort to refocus the discussion and take advantage of an interesting bit of thread drift.

deadbeater · 06-16-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I assure you even 300k is far from disgustingly wealthy.

To you, 30 billion euros is not disgustingly wealthy.

TheMercenary · 06-17-2008, 10:53 AM

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To you, 30 billion euros is not disgustingly wealthy.

And you would know this how? I accept that our society is economically stratified. It can't be anything else, it does not matter how little you make.

deadbeater · 06-17-2008, 05:28 PM

I'm just tired of the rich pleading poverty, especially CEOs who gets raises while their companies go to the toilet and employees lose everything they worked for. Even Mike Bloomberg made over $11 billion while in office, taking a $1 per year job. Eleven billion. At least he didn't take NYC to the toilet.

lookout123 · 06-17-2008, 05:56 PM

How much should someone running one of the largest cities in the world make? Also what were his sources of income to produce the $11B?

deadbeater · 06-17-2008, 06:33 PM

His trust. He is up from 5 billion to 11.5 billion (my mistake, sorry.)

He owns Bloomberg, LP, now in trust. You see the Wall Street ticker on CNBC and other financial channels? That's thanks to Bloomberg.

Goldman Sachs and just about every other brokerage house on Wall Street got an electronic ticker, thanks to Bloomberg.

I'm not certain yet whether his reach extends to Fleet Street or other European, or Asian markets.

lookout123 · 06-17-2008, 06:36 PM

Did his job as mayor have anything illicit impact on that trust? I am not a Bloomberg fan, but so what if his personal wealth grew from $5B to $10B or even $100B? If he only accepted $1 in wages then you should be applauding that choice to not take unneeded taxpayer money.

TheMercenary · 06-17-2008, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by deadbeater

I'm just tired of the rich pleading poverty, especially CEOs who gets raises while their companies go to the toilet and employees lose everything they worked for. Even Mike Bloomberg made over $11 billion while in office, taking a $1 per year job. Eleven billion. At least he didn't take NYC to the toilet.

If that is the case why would you say this to me?

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To you, 30 billion euros is not disgustingly wealthy.

I am no CEO. Sure I make good money by most standards but I am far from rich.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-25-2008, 01:47 AM

Well, he is an MBA... must be evil.

06-11-2008, 10:09 PM	#151
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Median household income was $46,326 in 2005, up 1.1 percent from 2004 after adjusting for inflation. This is the first annual increase in real median household income since 1999. Since 1967, the first year for which household income statistics are available, real median household income was up 30.9 percent __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

06-11-2008, 10:24 PM	#153
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	that's because the public swallows the political hacks' strategy of class warfare hook, line, and sinker. show me the person who thinks anyone making $100/200/300K per year deserves to be taxed more and I'll show you someone who doesn't have the belief that they could ever earn that much. Or someone so disgustingly wealthy that they pay someone hundreds of thousands to ensure they don't pay taxes anyway... __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

06-11-2008, 11:10 PM	#154
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	$500k in Los Angeles is like $150k anywhere else in America...with the possible exception of New York City. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

06-12-2008, 11:15 AM	#156
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Lets talk weath. I am starting a new thread in current events. I would appreciate it if you all came over and commented in an effort to refocus the discussion and take advantage of an interesting bit of thread drift. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

06-17-2008, 05:56 PM	#160
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	How much should someone running one of the largest cities in the world make? Also what were his sources of income to produce the $11B? __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

06-11-2008, 10:19 PM	#152
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	During the 2004 election, the line in the sand that Kerry had drawn for his tax-the-rich plan was $250,000 a year. Though obviously the taxation plan itself met with much criticism, the public seemed to swallow the actual number as a reasonable definition of rich at the time.

06-17-2008, 05:28 PM	#159
deadbeater Sir Post-A-Lot Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 439	I'm just tired of the rich pleading poverty, especially CEOs who gets raises while their companies go to the toilet and employees lose everything they worked for. Even Mike Bloomberg made over $11 billion while in office, taking a $1 per year job. Eleven billion. At least he didn't take NYC to the toilet.

06-17-2008, 06:33 PM	#161
deadbeater Sir Post-A-Lot Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 439	His trust. He is up from 5 billion to 11.5 billion (my mistake, sorry.) He owns Bloomberg, LP, now in trust. You see the Wall Street ticker on CNBC and other financial channels? That's thanks to Bloomberg. Goldman Sachs and just about every other brokerage house on Wall Street got an electronic ticker, thanks to Bloomberg. I'm not certain yet whether his reach extends to Fleet Street or other European, or Asian markets. Last edited by deadbeater; 06-17-2008 at 07:04 PM.

06-17-2008, 06:36 PM	#162
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	Did his job as mayor have anything illicit impact on that trust? I am not a Bloomberg fan, but so what if his personal wealth grew from $5B to $10B or even $100B? If he only accepted $1 in wages then you should be applauding that choice to not take unneeded taxpayer money. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

06-25-2008, 01:47 AM	#164
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Well, he is an MBA... must be evil. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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