Ending God's Tax Exempt Status

[lumberjim]

How about the Amish?

[Happy Monkey]

Since their interactions with the "English" are often, if not mostly, for profit, I see no reason for them to be tax exempt.

And apparently they do pay taxes. They don't pay for, or accept, social security or medicare, which is part of a religious exemption that I don't support.

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Well, it is more annoying when a lying, cheating, scumbag is also tax-exempt.

If they can't show they provide a service it comes into play.
We make people feel "closer to tha' sky pixie" does not qualify.

Originally Posted by jester

HM, I understand what you're saying. It's basically someone's fact/opinion vs another's fact/opinion. This is something that could be debated "forever", it is probably the most difficult thing, to "sway" someone away from a belief that they have held for most of their entire life.

Wrong, providing housing with ___% of our income can be shown, no opinion on the service needed.
A fact is a fact. Opinions are useless.

[xoxoxoBruce]

"Opinions are useless." Yes, especially yours.
Of the 40 odd tax exempt non-profits in my zip code, none of them provide me with a fucking thing... zip... zero. By your reasoning, I should object to their tax free status. But I won't, because I'm not a selfish prick that whines about what benefits other people get that I don't.

Wow, I'm dazzled with the eloquence and logic behind your reasoning.... I'm swayed!
LOL!!!

[smurfalicious]

seems like an awful lot emotionally charged argument on organized religion, not exemption or charitable status.

and an awful lot of ignorance as to how churches really work and the services they do provide and offer to everyone, regardless of whether or not you personally take advantage of them.

[xoxoxoBruce]

No, you will never be swayed. Hate has consumed you, permeated every cell in your body. That's why you spew it all over this board like a liquid manure spreader.

And as long as they can show that it is true and the majority of their funds spent... no issue.

I have no hate, I don't care what people believe... just what they do to others.
You are the one taking this personally.

[yesman065]

How does one quantify a "religious school" and the costs associated with them? Or a shelter and the actual real estate themselves or the housing for pastors, priests and the like?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

You are the one taking this personally.

I take it personally when a dog comes in a shits all over the house, like you do.

Whew, we just left the world huh?
I'm having a discussion.
If you want to turn it into something else, have at it, but it is just in your head.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Not me, I'm still here. You started just over 300 threads, in most of which you are busy telling other people what they must do, how they must run their lives, what they must believe, how they must raise their kids, how they must worship, to make you happy.
Spreading your hate far and wide like a petulant child. Boo hoo, people won't play my way... everybody's picking on me... I'm being oppressed.
Must be that 170 IQ that makes you think you have the only way to live properly and it's your duty to make everyone conform.

I have never done any of those things.
I give my opinion and look forward to discussions from both sides.
I do not, however, take those opinions personally like a little kid and misquote people to try to make myself look like something I'm not.
You are pitching a full-fledged fit and it is so damn funny I'm gonna' take a picture.
Are you kicking your feet?
I thought the idea of the Cellar was to discuss things, to learn from our differences.
I have admitted when someone has shown flaws in my reasoning and changed my views in here more than once.
I thank them and look forward to it happening again.
Please, in here, do it for me, show me a reasoned, logical argument that disputes my stance point-by-point... lay it out so I cannot refute it with reason and I will tell you that you have helped me be a better person and a more educated person.
It is a great day for me when this happens!
Do it, not a threat or challenge I REALLY want it, always... I like change and to know that I am wrong.
But, what you are doing now is just sad.

In a nutshell, religion does not deserve a hands-off approach to questioning discussions. Nor does it deserve the respect of anyone who does not share the belief.
Not respecting the belief does not disrespect the believer, that is a fallacy.
If you cannot handle them I don't understand why you involve yourself in them?