Muslims hate cute puppy advert

dar512 · 07-01-2008, 02:17 PM

I really don't understand these people.

DanaC · 07-01-2008, 02:38 PM

Well, that's the thing about different cultures, sometimes it is difficult to relate to them. The police should have been more careful. Personally, I see nothing wrong with showing a dog in that poster, but then again, I am not a moslem.

Shawnee123 · 07-01-2008, 02:43 PM

All I can say is McGruff is in BIG trouble.

lookout123 · 07-01-2008, 02:44 PM

I think the most reasonable course of action would be to inform the offended they have the right to ignore the poster or shut the fuck up and die. It's a dog. Deal with it. Yeahyeahyeah, you can't pray without taking a full bath if a dog licks you. Posters don't lick people.

DanaC · 07-01-2008, 03:01 PM

If it were a poster for a product that'd be fine, but it's a poster for a universal service (i.e the non-emergency telephone line) and therefore needs to take into account the multi-cultural community which it serves. There is a diversity officer employed by the force to ensure such mistakes are not made, but the police in question didn't seek that officer's advice. Had they done so this could have been very easily avoided.

lookout123 · 07-01-2008, 03:05 PM

dana, i don't care if it is a poster reminding them to breath at least a couple times a minute they can just eff off. it is a picture of a dog in a police hat. the dog isn't threatening, there is no saliva, the tongue isn't even showing.

if it was a picture of a pig and a couple jews got offended would anyone care? probably not. everyone is so concerned about what muslims think and it is just ridiculous.

Trilby · 07-01-2008, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

if it was a picture of a pig and a couple jews got offended would anyone care? probably not. everyone is so concerned about what muslims think and it is just ridiculous.

Couldn't agree more. ...why should every freakin' breathing moment of exsistance be dictated by this kind of crap? Ridiculous indeed.

Cloud · 07-01-2008, 04:11 PM

because they might blow you up.

(j/k. really!)

Sundae · 07-01-2008, 04:57 PM

It's a religious issue.
People always back off on religious issues, whatever the faith.

Yes I do find it ridiculous. But that's because I have no belief whatsoever. I also gag when people tell me that "someone" must be looking out for me, or that everything happens for a reason. I try not to let it out too much though, because I don't like to offend people unecessarily.

spudcon · 07-01-2008, 05:17 PM

Finally, some sanity about this crap. No one cares if anyone is offended unless they're Muslims. I don't care if they're offended. I'm fed up with their whiny asses.

DanaC · 07-01-2008, 05:41 PM

During the 2005 general election, the Labour Party used a series of posters which was basically suggesting that the Tories would carry out this or that great plan only when pigs flew. There was a picture of flying pigs one of whom had the tory leader's head. There was an outcry amongst the Jewish community and the labour party were accused of being anti-semitic, because they portrayed a jewish politician as a pig.

The reason we have diversity officers in police forces is to ensure that unnecessary offence is not caused. Personally I think those complaining are making a mountain out of a molehill and making a conscious decision to be offended by something which was not meant to be offensive: but it'd be a lot easier if the police just applied a little sense and don't use imagery that's potentially offensive to large chunks of the people they serve. Pigs, dogs and cows are probably best avoided as poster mascots.

regular.joe · 07-01-2008, 05:54 PM

Right, wrong or indifferent, does anyone here besides me know why muslims have a thing about dogs?

I wonder, if Christ would have told one of his disciples that dogs are unclean and that no good Christian would have a dog in his home, I wonder if there would be a problem with the add.

What Mohammed PBUH said about dogs is a very well known fact among muslims in the world.

I suppose that it might depend on the size of the population I'm going to piss off with my seemingly innocent advertising. What is the impact on the local economy, what kind of message am I sending, without saying anything with words to a large segment of my local population. I suppose if I were a leader I would want to be aware of these things.

Sometimes I think the largest segment of the population thinks they can just tell everyone else, "fuck off and see it my way. What you think and believe is silly nonsense anyway." Finally, yes, it is this way no matter where I go in the world, it seems to be human nature.

parting thought, it is a hard thing in a free society to diplomatically balance the majority with various minority populations. Especially when they all have different beliefs and values. It is worth doing.

DanaC · 07-01-2008, 05:56 PM

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parting thought, it is a hard thing in a free society to diplomatically balance the majority with various minority populations. Especially when they all have different beliefs and values. It is worth doing.

Well said Joe.

DanaC · 07-01-2008, 06:02 PM

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if it was a picture of a pig and a couple jews got offended would anyone care? probably not. everyone is so concerned about what muslims think and it is just ridiculous.

If it was a pig and a couple of jews were offended (actually, far more likely that there would be widespread outrage amongst jewish communities) the advert would most likely be withdrawn. It is not an advert for hairspray, it is a poster disseminating important public information and has been devised and placed by a public body. It should be tailored to meet the needs of that public.

Sundae · 07-01-2008, 07:11 PM

Imagine an "out" homosexual advertising a public service in Bible Belt America.
How offensive would that be deemed?

And I would be dismissive of the condemnation too - in fact I'd be more strident in my view as it involves a human being.

07-01-2008, 02:17 PM	#1
dar512 dar512 is now Pete Zicato Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburb Posts: 4,968	Muslims hate cute puppy advert I really don't understand these people. __________________ "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." -- Friedrich Schiller

07-01-2008, 02:43 PM	#3
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	All I can say is McGruff is in BIG trouble. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

07-01-2008, 02:44 PM	#4
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	I think the most reasonable course of action would be to inform the offended they have the right to ignore the poster or shut the fuck up and die. It's a dog. Deal with it. Yeahyeahyeah, you can't pray without taking a full bath if a dog licks you. Posters don't lick people. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

07-01-2008, 03:05 PM	#6
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	dana, i don't care if it is a poster reminding them to breath at least a couple times a minute they can just eff off. it is a picture of a dog in a police hat. the dog isn't threatening, there is no saliva, the tongue isn't even showing. if it was a picture of a pig and a couple jews got offended would anyone care? probably not. everyone is so concerned about what muslims think and it is just ridiculous. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

07-01-2008, 04:11 PM	#8
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	because they might blow you up. (j/k. really!) __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

07-01-2008, 02:38 PM	#2
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Well, that's the thing about different cultures, sometimes it is difficult to relate to them. The police should have been more careful. Personally, I see nothing wrong with showing a dog in that poster, but then again, I am not a moslem.

07-01-2008, 03:01 PM	#5
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	If it were a poster for a product that'd be fine, but it's a poster for a universal service (i.e the non-emergency telephone line) and therefore needs to take into account the multi-cultural community which it serves. There is a diversity officer employed by the force to ensure such mistakes are not made, but the police in question didn't seek that officer's advice. Had they done so this could have been very easily avoided.

07-01-2008, 04:57 PM	#9
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	It's a religious issue. People always back off on religious issues, whatever the faith. Yes I do find it ridiculous. But that's because I have no belief whatsoever. I also gag when people tell me that "someone" must be looking out for me, or that everything happens for a reason. I try not to let it out too much though, because I don't like to offend people unecessarily. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

07-01-2008, 05:17 PM	#10
spudcon Beware of potatoes Join Date: May 2007 Location: Upstate NY, USA Posts: 2,078	Finally, some sanity about this crap. No one cares if anyone is offended unless they're Muslims. I don't care if they're offended. I'm fed up with their whiny asses. __________________ "I believe that being despised by the despicable is as good as being admired by the admirable."

07-01-2008, 05:41 PM	#11
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	During the 2005 general election, the Labour Party used a series of posters which was basically suggesting that the Tories would carry out this or that great plan only when pigs flew. There was a picture of flying pigs one of whom had the tory leader's head. There was an outcry amongst the Jewish community and the labour party were accused of being anti-semitic, because they portrayed a jewish politician as a pig. The reason we have diversity officers in police forces is to ensure that unnecessary offence is not caused. Personally I think those complaining are making a mountain out of a molehill and making a conscious decision to be offended by something which was not meant to be offensive: but it'd be a lot easier if the police just applied a little sense and don't use imagery that's potentially offensive to large chunks of the people they serve. Pigs, dogs and cows are probably best avoided as poster mascots.

07-01-2008, 05:54 PM	#12
regular.joe Старый сержант Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NC, dreaming of large Russian women. Posts: 1,464	Right, wrong or indifferent, does anyone here besides me know why muslims have a thing about dogs? I wonder, if Christ would have told one of his disciples that dogs are unclean and that no good Christian would have a dog in his home, I wonder if there would be a problem with the add. What Mohammed PBUH said about dogs is a very well known fact among muslims in the world. I suppose that it might depend on the size of the population I'm going to piss off with my seemingly innocent advertising. What is the impact on the local economy, what kind of message am I sending, without saying anything with words to a large segment of my local population. I suppose if I were a leader I would want to be aware of these things. Sometimes I think the largest segment of the population thinks they can just tell everyone else, "fuck off and see it my way. What you think and believe is silly nonsense anyway." Finally, yes, it is this way no matter where I go in the world, it seems to be human nature. parting thought, it is a hard thing in a free society to diplomatically balance the majority with various minority populations. Especially when they all have different beliefs and values. It is worth doing. __________________ Birth, wealth, and position are valueless during wartime. Man is only judged by his character --Soldier's Testament. Death, like birth, is a secret of Nature. - Marcus Aurelius.

07-01-2008, 07:11 PM	#15
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Imagine an "out" homosexual advertising a public service in Bible Belt America. How offensive would that be deemed? And I would be dismissive of the condemnation too - in fact I'd be more strident in my view as it involves a human being. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

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