My thoughts on homophobia

buttless · 10-01-2011, 05:13 AM

Living and working in downtown Portland OR one can not swing a dead cat without hitting a homosexual. That being said I do not understand folks who judge a person based on sexual orientation. If that is how you form an opinion of a person you are REALLY missing a lot. I would like to think a person is more than what they do between the sheets.

The other side of this coin would be the gays and lesbians who hold their sexuality out as their identity. If their orientation is all they have to offer the world that is just plain sad. If this makes me a bad person so be it.

Aliantha · 10-01-2011, 05:28 AM

I agree with most of what you said there buttless. The only thing I'd comment on is to suggest that for some people, coming out of the closet has meant years of pain and suffering, and untold sacrifices. When you go through something like that, it's hard not to pin it on your sleeve.

Welcome to the cellar.

Trilby · 10-01-2011, 06:48 AM

I'm against swinging cats.

I think it's wrong.

glatt · 10-01-2011, 06:53 AM

But if they are already dead, who does it really hurt?

buttless · 10-01-2011, 06:54 AM

What about dead ones as I mentioned.

Trilby · 10-01-2011, 07:19 AM

I'm against dead cat swinging and live dwarf tossing.

But feel free to toss the dead dwarves.

Sundae · 10-01-2011, 07:24 AM

I think popularising swinging dead cats will use up the natural supply of said deceased felines rather quickly. The prediliction can only then be satisfied by a wave of cat genocide.

Beware of the further consequnces of your suggestions.

One thing that always puzzles me about people that fulminate about teh gays is that they 1) assume it is a choice and 2) that it's so very tempting, even giving a male child a doll or letting him play with a handbag will be enough to turn him.

Coca Cola spend billions on persuading people a sweet brown drink is the ultimate improvement for everything from a hot day at the beach to a frosty Christian holiday. If only they knew that promotion and advertising was as easy as saying "I won't hate you if you do that little Johnny."

classicman · 10-01-2011, 08:08 AM

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Living and working in downtown Portland OR one can not swing a dead HOBO without hitting a homosexual.

FTFY

Trilby · 10-01-2011, 08:10 AM

homosexuality is very tempting...at least to Right-wing Republicans and members (HA!) of the clergy. Those folk seem to be 'hard-wired' for it. As Jon Stewart so wisely said, (and I'm paraphrasing) those who preach the most rabid anti-gay message are ususally the gayest of them all.

Rhianne · 10-01-2011, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by buttless

The other side of this coin would be the gays and lesbians who hold their sexuality out as their identity. If their orientation is all they have to offer the world that is just plain sad. If this makes me a bad person so be it.

I know what you mean, but look around any town, especially on a weekend evening, and you'll see that it's not just the gay folk that are like that.

Pico and ME · 10-01-2011, 12:28 PM

No kidding, Buttless just passed judgement on nearly everyone on the planet.

JBKlyde · 10-01-2011, 12:28 PM

I thinks it's just a stupid thing to do.. you don't see animals who are homosexual.. and in case you haven't noticed sex is on of the things that's separates animals from humans.. humans are the only species who have sex for fun.. taking it to the extreme and having gay sex is just plain wrong in the nature of the animal kingdom. So what makes it right in the human race?? Honestly I don't know and don't care to know. It's S-T-U-P-I-D

Pico and ME · 10-01-2011, 12:30 PM

My dog blows himself any chance he gets. (when we aren't looking - he likes to hide in his crate to do it mostly). I imagine he does it because he enjoys it.

Sundae · 10-01-2011, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JBKlyde

you don't see animals who are homosexual.. and in case you haven't noticed sex is on of the things that's separates animals from humans.. humans are the only species who have sex for fun.. taking it to the extreme and having gay sex is just plain wrong in the nature of the animal kingdom. So what makes it right in the human race?? Honestly I don't know and don't care to know. It's S-T-U-P-I-D

W.R.O.N.G.
Wiki link to show how widespread evidence is that you are WRONG. It's not a tiny footnote in a biologicial journal - it's a LONG article on Wikipedia about 24 species which are just cited as examples.

And no, of course Wiki is not a credible source. But I knew about lesbian tendencies in bonobo apes and gay giraffes (9/10 pairing are male/male) off the top of my head, so I figure the article leans towards accuracy.

Quote:

Petter Bøckman, the scientific advisor of the exhibition Against Nature? in 2007, speculated that the true extent of the phenomenon may be much larger than was then recognized:

No species has been found in which homosexual behaviour has not been shown to exist, with the exception of species that never have sex at all, such as sea urchins and aphis. Moreover, a part of the animal kingdom is hermaphroditic, truly bisexual. For them, homosexuality is not an issue.

And that's just Wikipedia.
Imagine how much more WRONG you would be if I started looking for official scientific links.

Oh, at least now I get why gay sex is so very tempting that people need to be wary of it.
Sex for fun is humans enjoying themselves.
Take it to the extreme...? Gay sex apparently.
Gay sex = netrosex PLUS!
Yup, it's a temptation alright.

I don't know why gay people get out of bed at all!

buttless · 10-01-2011, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhianne

I know what you mean, but look around any town, especially on a weekend evening, and you'll see that it's not just the gay folk that are like that.

OK.
My choice of words could have been better. Much better.

An example would be a guy I know who will twist any conversation he gets involved in to the issue of gay rights. Somebody could be discussing a carburetor rebuild and Jerry will some how find a connection with gay rights.

I hope this makes more sense.

10-01-2011, 05:13 AM	#1
buttless Eavesdropper Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 24	My thoughts on homophobia Living and working in downtown Portland OR one can not swing a dead cat without hitting a homosexual. That being said I do not understand folks who judge a person based on sexual orientation. If that is how you form an opinion of a person you are REALLY missing a lot. I would like to think a person is more than what they do between the sheets. The other side of this coin would be the gays and lesbians who hold their sexuality out as their identity. If their orientation is all they have to offer the world that is just plain sad. If this makes me a bad person so be it.

10-01-2011, 05:28 AM	#2
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I agree with most of what you said there buttless. The only thing I'd comment on is to suggest that for some people, coming out of the closet has meant years of pain and suffering, and untold sacrifices. When you go through something like that, it's hard not to pin it on your sleeve. Welcome to the cellar. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

10-01-2011, 06:48 AM	#3
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	I'm against swinging cats. I think it's wrong. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

10-01-2011, 07:19 AM	#6
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	I'm against dead cat swinging and live dwarf tossing. But feel free to toss the dead dwarves. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

10-01-2011, 07:24 AM	#7
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	I think popularising swinging dead cats will use up the natural supply of said deceased felines rather quickly. The prediliction can only then be satisfied by a wave of cat genocide. Beware of the further consequnces of your suggestions. One thing that always puzzles me about people that fulminate about teh gays is that they 1) assume it is a choice and 2) that it's so very tempting, even giving a male child a doll or letting him play with a handbag will be enough to turn him. Coca Cola spend billions on persuading people a sweet brown drink is the ultimate improvement for everything from a hot day at the beach to a frosty Christian holiday. If only they knew that promotion and advertising was as easy as saying "I won't hate you if you do that little Johnny." __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

10-01-2011, 06:53 AM	#4
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	But if they are already dead, who does it really hurt?

10-01-2011, 06:54 AM	#5
buttless Eavesdropper Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 24	What about dead ones as I mentioned.

10-01-2011, 08:10 AM	#9
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	homosexuality is very tempting...at least to Right-wing Republicans and members (HA!) of the clergy. Those folk seem to be 'hard-wired' for it. As Jon Stewart so wisely said, (and I'm paraphrasing) those who preach the most rabid anti-gay message are ususally the gayest of them all. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

10-01-2011, 12:28 PM	#11
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	No kidding, Buttless just passed judgement on nearly everyone on the planet. __________________ Jesse LaGreca in 2012 “Seven Deadly Sins: Wealth without work, Pleasure without conscience, Science without humanity, Knowledge without character, Politics without principle, Commerce without morality, Worship without sacrifice.” – Mahatma Gandhi

10-01-2011, 12:28 PM	#12
JBKlyde Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Encrypted Into an AmpitheaterWall Posts: 1,722	I thinks it's just a stupid thing to do.. you don't see animals who are homosexual.. and in case you haven't noticed sex is on of the things that's separates animals from humans.. humans are the only species who have sex for fun.. taking it to the extreme and having gay sex is just plain wrong in the nature of the animal kingdom. So what makes it right in the human race?? Honestly I don't know and don't care to know. It's S-T-U-P-I-D

10-01-2011, 12:30 PM	#13
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	My dog blows himself any chance he gets. (when we aren't looking - he likes to hide in his crate to do it mostly). I imagine he does it because he enjoys it. __________________ Jesse LaGreca in 2012 “Seven Deadly Sins: Wealth without work, Pleasure without conscience, Science without humanity, Knowledge without character, Politics without principle, Commerce without morality, Worship without sacrifice.” – Mahatma Gandhi

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