07/07/02: Visualizations

juju · 07-07-2002, 12:15 AM

A few nights ago, while I was taking a shower, I witnessed a tiny roach crawling down the shower curtain in front of me.

I mentally freaked out, and started seeing giant 6 foot cockroaches everywhere. I knew logically that they weren't really there, but my visualizations are so realistic sometimes that there's always a miniscule bit of belief. It was really, really freaky. I had an immediate and strong impulse to turn off the water and go into the bedroom with my wife (who was asleep).

But I will never let my own mind get the better of me. It's a matter of pride and self-control.

I have this mantra that I recite whenever my imagination gets the better of me. "I trust my senses. I believe in reality". I started reciting this over and over to myself. After a couple of minutes, the giant roaches went away.

Nic Name · 07-07-2002, 12:27 AM

Whenever that happens to me, I try to distract myself with a movie.

juju · 07-07-2002, 12:36 AM

lol. Somehow, I don't think that would work. :)

07-07-2002, 11:09 AM

Have you done a lot of acid in the past?

Nic Name · 07-07-2002, 11:12 AM

dham, have you tried the new game on that movie link above?

Undertoad · 07-07-2002, 11:36 AM

I was taught in college that the philosopher Sartre would occasionally have visions of crabs, after an episode with mescaline where he saw all kinds of crabs and other crustaceans. Simone de Beauvoir would ask him "How was your day?" and he'd answer back "Oh, it was okay, but there were a few crabs following us..."

In his time I'm sure that seemed enlightening... in our modern time we should think of it as a neural pathway trained the wrong way, leading to a lifelong annoyance.

MaggieL · 07-07-2002, 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by Undertoad
I was taught in college that the philosopher Sartre would occasionally have visions of crab.

Let us not neglect the possibility that Mme. de Beauvoir actually *had* crabs but blamed it on the mescaline. :-)

juju · 07-07-2002, 11:33 PM

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Originally posted by dhamsaic
Have you done a lot of acid in the past?

No, i've never done any illegal drugs. But I was heavily into witchcraft in my late teens to early twenties. Today, of course, I believe it to all be crap.

The techinques I was taught that allowed me to "see spirits" and "astrally travel" involved a lot of visualization. And I got really good at it. So good, in fact, that I can imagine nearly anything I want and almost see it. It's never real-real, of course. I can see things in high detail, but they're always a bit transparent. Still, it looks real enough to believe if you're stupid like I was.

You see the convenience of this method, of course. If you can convince someone that their imagination is real, you can prove nearly anything to them.

warch · 07-08-2002, 05:01 PM

Roaches! ha! I am currently trying to shake the reoccuring freaky image of tapeworms I unfortunately found while surfing past Animal Planet. I tried not to stop and watch, but it was alluring with its interviews and staged reinactments. A outdoorsman from Canada remarked, " I knew I shouldnt eat the raw fish, but I was just so hungry...", "I kept pulling and pulling and it kept coming...", "nine feet:, " If you dont get the head, segments will regrow..." *cringe* sorry, just thought I'd share. I do like sushi.
Happy thoughts, non-parasitic thoughts, non-twilight zone thoughts...:O

Bitman · 07-13-2002, 08:37 PM

Wait, what's that behind you?

Wow, I didn't know the human brain was that soft. But then I sometimes hear things, so I shouldn't be surprised. Does that ability have any practical value? I sometimes need to visualize things in my head; does it help to float them in front of your eyes?

juju · 07-14-2002, 01:14 AM

No, not really. If I really need to visualize something, I can just imagine it in my head. There's no need to imagine things outside my head, unless I just want to freak myself out.

elSicomoro · 07-14-2002, 01:47 AM

For some time, I thought I was suffering from acid flashbacks, until I learned that it was actually a "trick" played on you by your brain, involving the rods and cones in your eyes. :)

juju · 07-14-2002, 01:50 AM

Yeah.. when you stare at one color for a long time and then quickly look at something white? :) That's pretty cool, but it did freak my shit out when I didn't know what it was.

elSicomoro · 07-14-2002, 01:58 AM

It wasn't that one. Unfortunately, I don't know the scientific name for it, but it's the trick where it looks like gnats are flying in front of you, when it's really just your eyes trying to adjust or something. It may not even involve rods and cones, but I believe it does. I'm gonna have to look that one up. :)

LordSludge · 07-15-2002, 04:03 PM

When I am very fatigued, e.g. missed one or more nights of sleep, I'll hallucinate. It starts as an intermittant, indeterminate "motion" in my perepherial vision, then works its way towards my main field of vision and becomes more distinct subject matter. I've learned that at that point, I can willfully control the content of the hallucinations, although it was pretty freaky-scary before I figured that out. Now it's kinda cool, provided I think happy thoughts.

Anybody else like that?

07-07-2002, 12:15 AM	#1
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	07/07/02: Visualizations A few nights ago, while I was taking a shower, I witnessed a tiny roach crawling down the shower curtain in front of me. I mentally freaked out, and started seeing giant 6 foot cockroaches everywhere. I knew logically that they weren't really there, but my visualizations are so realistic sometimes that there's always a miniscule bit of belief. It was really, really freaky. I had an immediate and strong impulse to turn off the water and go into the bedroom with my wife (who was asleep). But I will never let my own mind get the better of me. It's a matter of pride and self-control. I have this mantra that I recite whenever my imagination gets the better of me. "I trust my senses. I believe in reality". I started reciting this over and over to myself. After a couple of minutes, the giant roaches went away.

07-15-2002, 04:03 PM	#15
LordSludge Geek Join Date: May 2002 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 76	When I am very fatigued, e.g. missed one or more nights of sleep, I'll hallucinate. It starts as an intermittant, indeterminate "motion" in my perepherial vision, then works its way towards my main field of vision and becomes more distinct subject matter. I've learned that at that point, I can willfully control the content of the hallucinations, although it was pretty freaky-scary before I figured that out. Now it's kinda cool, provided I think happy thoughts. Anybody else like that? __________________ "Fasten your seatbelt. I saw something in a cartoon once that I want to try."

07-07-2002, 12:27 AM	#2
Nic Name retired Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,930	Whenever that happens to me, I try to distract myself with a movie.

07-07-2002, 12:36 AM	#3
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	lol. Somehow, I don't think that would work. :)

07-07-2002, 11:09 AM	#4
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Have you done a lot of acid in the past?

07-07-2002, 11:12 AM	#5
Nic Name retired Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,930	dham, have you tried the new game on that movie link above?

07-07-2002, 11:36 AM	#6
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I was taught in college that the philosopher Sartre would occasionally have visions of crabs, after an episode with mescaline where he saw all kinds of crabs and other crustaceans. Simone de Beauvoir would ask him "How was your day?" and he'd answer back "Oh, it was okay, but there were a few crabs following us..." In his time I'm sure that seemed enlightening... in our modern time we should think of it as a neural pathway trained the wrong way, leading to a lifelong annoyance.

07-08-2002, 05:01 PM	#9
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Roaches! ha! I am currently trying to shake the reoccuring freaky image of tapeworms I unfortunately found while surfing past Animal Planet. I tried not to stop and watch, but it was alluring with its interviews and staged reinactments. A outdoorsman from Canada remarked, " I knew I shouldnt eat the raw fish, but I was just so hungry...", "I kept pulling and pulling and it kept coming...", "nine feet:, " If you dont get the head, segments will regrow..." cringe sorry, just thought I'd share. I do like sushi. Happy thoughts, non-parasitic thoughts, non-twilight zone thoughts...:O

07-13-2002, 08:37 PM	#10
Bitman cellar smellar Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: californy, baby! Posts: 403	Wait, what's that behind you? Wow, I didn't know the human brain was that soft. But then I sometimes hear things, so I shouldn't be surprised. Does that ability have any practical value? I sometimes need to visualize things in my head; does it help to float them in front of your eyes?

07-14-2002, 01:14 AM	#11
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	No, not really. If I really need to visualize something, I can just imagine it in my head. There's no need to imagine things outside my head, unless I just want to freak myself out.

07-14-2002, 01:47 AM	#12
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	For some time, I thought I was suffering from acid flashbacks, until I learned that it was actually a "trick" played on you by your brain, involving the rods and cones in your eyes. :)

07-14-2002, 01:50 AM	#13
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	Yeah.. when you stare at one color for a long time and then quickly look at something white? :) That's pretty cool, but it did freak my shit out when I didn't know what it was.

07-14-2002, 01:58 AM	#14
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	It wasn't that one. Unfortunately, I don't know the scientific name for it, but it's the trick where it looks like gnats are flying in front of you, when it's really just your eyes trying to adjust or something. It may not even involve rods and cones, but I believe it does. I'm gonna have to look that one up. :)

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