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09-10-2008, 02:44 PM
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Sarah Palin
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09-10-2008, 02:46 PM
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I like your paraphrase of the media coverage.
Does the GOP expect to carry "nothing" to the White House?
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09-10-2008, 02:48 PM
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They haven't put the chip in her neck yet.
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09-10-2008, 02:56 PM
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Logos 15%
Ethos 20% Pathos 75% That's roughly about the weight people give each one when making decisions. The long wait before she goes in front of the press is totally calculated political strategy. |
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09-10-2008, 02:56 PM
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Cite?
Not that I disagree.
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****************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio |
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09-10-2008, 03:02 PM
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Instead of a cite, I point to... television commercials.
That's what they appeal to, to general audiences. |
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09-10-2008, 03:03 PM
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Gotcha.
Idiocracy.
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****************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio |
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09-10-2008, 03:05 PM
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If by "totally calculated political strategy" you mean a "craven pandering attempt at misdirection by bulking up on pathos due to a shameful deficiency of logos", then I would be inclined to agree with you.
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09-10-2008, 03:06 PM
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I love snarky if-then statements.
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****************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio |
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09-10-2008, 03:08 PM
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Fuck, this whole thread is making me sad.
I have resisted seeing Idiocracy. I'm afraid the people around me laughing at its comedy won't understand my crying at its tragedy. This is no goddamned way to run a railroad.
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09-10-2008, 06:05 PM
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I always give 110%.
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barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy.
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09-11-2008, 10:51 AM
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****************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio |
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09-11-2008, 03:16 PM
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Republican Party provides funds to the Democrats via Heart's "Barracuda"
Palin and her people continue to use the song despite Heart's displeasure. Quote:
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