Scan or Grope? - Page 2

Undertoad · 01-11-2011, 07:53 AM

Y'know, I don't think they would scan a dog with the backscatter machine. I think if you are singled out for scanning, they will probably x-ray the crate and then you could put the dog back in the crate while you get scanned.

They may examine the dog by hand, though it would be kind of obvious that the dog is not carrying a bomb. The idea of the backscatter machine is to see under your clothes to see if you're hiding liquid explosives. The dog can't do that unless s/he's dressed. And the Chi is too small to hide enough plastic explosives up its butt.

footfootfoot · 01-11-2011, 09:07 AM

Shawnee123 · 01-11-2011, 09:10 AM

I don't care if they probe me, so long as Loughner or the like isn't sitting next to me plotting to rule the world.

kerosene · 01-11-2011, 09:29 AM

Probably grope. I just don't necessarily trust the safety of those machines. The fewer x-rays the better, I say.

Beest · 01-11-2011, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Nirvana

If the rumors are right and they scramble DNA

I haggis'd, the made sure to do my background reading.
http://www.hpa.org.uk/Topics/Radiati.../BodyScanners/

I am a radiation safety professional, you're getting more radiation on the flight, than going through the scanner.

monster · 01-11-2011, 11:38 AM

But it doesn't say it doesn't scramble your DNA......... it just says it's low dose radiation. Those aliens are sneaky that way, making it look all safe and shit.....

monster · 01-11-2011, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Beest

I am a radiation safety professional.

he says that to all the chicks......

Shawnee123 · 01-11-2011, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster

he says that to all the chicks......

glatt · 01-11-2011, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Beest

I am a radiation safety professional, you're getting more radiation on the flight, than going through the scanner.

What I have read elsewhere is that it's comparing apples to oranges when it comes to radiation dosage. A typical x-ray machine in a doctor's office will give you a set amount of radiation and that's averaged out over your whole body to come up with the exposure number. The backscatter machines use a certain amount of radiation, and when they publish that number, they average it out over your whole body as well. But what I've read is that this is a bad comparison because the backscatter machine only penetrates a couple of millimeters. So when you average out the total radiation over the actual tissue that's being radiated, it's orders of magnitude higher for that tissue. The published numbers are simply wrong, according to what I've read. And for men, especially boys with smaller ones, the vital tissue that's being radiated at these high levels are the testicles.

I don't pretend to be knowledgeable about this, I only know what I've read. So I could be wrong, but what I've read about this leaves me with unsettled questions. I'm not confident that they have been proven safe, but based on what I know now, I would not let my son go through one.

Once some trusted entity other than the TSA shows them to be safe, I'll change my tune. But I don't trust the TSA at all to tell the truth.

Pico and ME · 01-11-2011, 12:21 PM

I will be visiting my Mom again this Spring, and if I decide to fly instead of drive, I will go through the scan. They won, because I really don't want to be groped.

Shawnee123 · 01-11-2011, 12:23 PM

I guess I would go scan, but the screen is, like...hidden right? I mean, I have this fear of my nekkid self on some airport jumbotron or something. Sure would clear the flight.

monster · 01-11-2011, 12:32 PM

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monster · 01-11-2011, 12:33 PM

I may get in trouble for that one.....

Shawnee123 · 01-11-2011, 12:42 PM

If the TSA agents look like that, go for the grope!

Pico and ME · 01-11-2011, 12:43 PM

Daaaammmmnnnnnnnnn...thats Beest?

hubba hubba

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01-11-2011, 09:07 AM	#17
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01-11-2011, 09:10 AM	#18
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I don't care if they probe me, so long as Loughner or the like isn't sitting next to me plotting to rule the world. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

01-11-2011, 11:38 AM	#21
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	But it doesn't say it doesn't scramble your DNA......... it just says it's low dose radiation. Those aliens are sneaky that way, making it look all safe and shit..... __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

01-11-2011, 12:23 PM	#26
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I guess I would go scan, but the screen is, like...hidden right? I mean, I have this fear of my nekkid self on some airport jumbotron or something. Sure would clear the flight. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

01-11-2011, 07:53 AM	#16
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Y'know, I don't think they would scan a dog with the backscatter machine. I think if you are singled out for scanning, they will probably x-ray the crate and then you could put the dog back in the crate while you get scanned. They may examine the dog by hand, though it would be kind of obvious that the dog is not carrying a bomb. The idea of the backscatter machine is to see under your clothes to see if you're hiding liquid explosives. The dog can't do that unless s/he's dressed. And the Chi is too small to hide enough plastic explosives up its butt.

01-11-2011, 09:29 AM	#19
kerosene Touring the facilities Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The plains of Colorado Posts: 3,476	Probably grope. I just don't necessarily trust the safety of those machines. The fewer x-rays the better, I say.

01-11-2011, 12:21 PM	#25
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	I will be visiting my Mom again this Spring, and if I decide to fly instead of drive, I will go through the scan. They won, because I really don't want to be groped.

01-11-2011, 12:32 PM	#27
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	. Attached Images __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

01-11-2011, 12:33 PM	#28
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	I may get in trouble for that one..... __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

01-11-2011, 12:42 PM	#29
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	If the TSA agents look like that, go for the grope! __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

01-11-2011, 12:43 PM	#30
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	Daaaammmmnnnnnnnnn...thats Beest? hubba hubba

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