Betting tips

[W.HI.P]

thats the way to start a week.
its so much easier when you start sunday with your base already through.
its very likely that we will be ending this week with a profit....lets see how much.

Originally Posted by W.HI.P

we'll be using saturday nights game as our base.

1]new orlean saints[-7.0] vs dallas cowboys

i don't get the hype that this new orleans team is getting.
this attack, is as good as it was last year.
it was amazing last year, and it is amazing this year.
what has improved a little bit, is their defence.
does it make them more of a contender than last year?
possibly.
this bet is not about that, its about this weeks game against the desperate cowboys.
with the saints motives under serious question in addition to the perception of the masses, we'll have to use this game as a base.


2]tennessee titans[-3.5] vs miami dolphins

this dolphins team is what it is because of bill.
no ronnie brown injury is gonna get rid of this team, which has introduced a revolution of the sport that is being used throughout the nfl and college football.
the miami dolphins can win this division for the 2nd year in a row, but they're gonna have to beat the titans in tennessee to maintain their title.

3]seattle seahawks[-7.5] vs tampa bay bucs

both teams motives are under question here, as both teams are looking to lose for draft purposes at this point.
it is more than likely that the home team achieves this draft goal.
huge 7.5 point cushion on ability alone.

4]pittsburgh steelers vs green bay packers[-1.5]

i have to give some credit to ben here as he has taken a greater beating over the past 2 seasons than any qb in the league.
he is an iron horse.
the attack is a mess.
the steelers are falling to the pit of the nfl.
however, their aging defence, although on the way out, still has this time to play, and they will.
watch this possible wild card packers attack to get banged up in these match-ups

5]carolina panthers vs minnesota vikings[-9.5].

its resting time.

6]washington redskins vs new york giants[-3.5]

the redskins need to replace clinton portis, and they're aiming very very high in the draft.
is the team capable? clearly they are, but they will not win this game.
the chances of the giants winning by 3 points is a lot less probable than the chances of the giants winning by 4 or more, so given the odds, we're gonna have to go with the play-off team.

1 base combined with 5 games make up 10 bets.
10 bets x $300 = $3.000

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the base with

2 wins = $2.100
3 wins = $6.300
4 wins = $12.600
5 wins = $21.000

lets not forget, our bets for the ncaaf bowls start tonight with southern mississippi.

Originally Posted by W.HI.P

Sunday December 20
1]New Orleans Bowl
Southern Mississippi[-3.5] - Middle Tenn. St.

Monday December 28
2]Independence Bowl
Texas A&M - Georgia[-7.0]

Tuesday December 29
3]Champs Sports Bowl
Miami (FL)[-3.5] - Wisconsin

4]Sun Bowl
Oklahoma[-9.5] - Stanford

5]Capital One Bowl
Penn St.[-2.5] - LSU

6]Cotton Bowl
Oklahoma St. - Mississippi[-3.0]

Tuesday January 5
7]Orange Bowl
Iowa - Georgia Tech[-4.0]

Thursday January 7
8]BCS Championship
Texas - Alabama[-5.5]

8 games combined make up 56 bets
$100 a bet x 56 = $5.600

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3 wins = $700
4 wins = $2.800
5 wins = $7.000
6 wins = $14.000
7 wins = $24.500
8 wins = $39.200

[W.HI.P]

this week is another example of how our betting system works.

we won the base, and 4 wins, so we've already won $12.600.

this is the position you'll want to be in having won 5 out of 5 with 1 game left.... already more than 4 times your money wagered

our winnings for this week will go up to $21.000 with a giants win -3.5 tonight.

this is how you cash in for sure on your good weeks.
you don't want to be in a position most people find themselves in having all the winnings riding on the final game.
you gotta take the money.

[W.HI.P]

wow, weeks like this don't come so often....[6 out of 6]
my actual net on this season in the nfl rises to +$33.000.
with free money games in the play-offs, our objective is to add a zero to the end of that figure.

since this thread is called betting tips, let me give a tip.
when winning good money, people tend to up their stakes...this is a no-no.
one might consider going the opposite way and decrease their wager.
after all, you've achieved the objective of profit from gambling, now don't go giving it all back.
the most logical thing to do, since your betting is working as you're in a positive net, is not to change anything...you bet $3.000 before you won, bet $3.000 again.

to those who won some serious money this week, you're welcome.

[W.HI.P]

when betting in a week where there is an early thursday, or saturday night game... you need to ask yourself wether or not you're gonna use the game.
if the answer is yes, then one should use the early game as a base.
if its a strong base, then go ahead and bet your usual.
if the game is not suited to be a base, still use it as a base, but decrease the money wagered.

the reason why one should use the game as a base, is if the game goes through, you won't want to be holding bets that do not contain this game.
if it does not go through, you can simply treat the week as a new one

we'll be using saturday nights game as a base for this week.

1] tennessee titans[-2.5] vs san diego chargers
the difference in quality between these two teams is overwhelming on both sides of the ball.
the only thing to worry about is wether or not the chargers are resting, cause otherwise, this is an easy double digit win.

2]miami dolphins[-3.0] vs houston texans
if there is one thing you can count on, its that bill has his priorities straight.
when you have to win, you try your best to win.
when its time to lose, you gotta try your best to lose.
the dolphins will finish out this season without another win.

4]clevland browns[-3.5] vs oakland raiders
another case where both teams want to lose for draft purposes.
its very common that the home team achieves this draft goal.

3]pittsburgh steelers[-2.5] vs baltimore ravens
ben had an amazing game last week against the under par packers defence.
sunday will prove to be a different story.
the man may be an iron horse, but he's up against some of the toughest men in the sport.
i doubt ben will finish out the game.

1 base, combined with 3 games make up 3 bets.
3 bets x $1.000 = $3.000

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the base with 2 wins = $7.000
the base with 3 wins = $21.000

[W.HI.P]

this is how our college football bowl games bets are looking so far...

1 southern mississippi lost
but
2 georgia won
and
3 wisconsin won

these are the remaining games

4]Sun Bowl
Oklahoma[-9.5] - Stanford

5]Capital One Bowl
Penn St.[-2.5] - LSU

6]Cotton Bowl
Oklahoma St. - Mississippi[-3.0]

Tuesday January 5
7]Orange Bowl
Iowa - Georgia Tech[-4.0]

Thursday January 7
8]BCS Championship
Texas - Alabama[-5.5]

these are the bets that are still riding.
in green, the games already won

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this is what we're looking to make out of the college bowl game bets

3 wins = $700
4 wins = $2.800
5 wins = $7.000
6 wins = $14.000
7 wins = $24.500

[W.HI.P]

even though week 17 has alwasy been good to us, due to the inbalance of betting that takes place on teams that need to win, we'll be saving our serious money for the free money play-off games.

we'll be using the cowboys as a base.

1] dallas cowboys[-2.5] vs philadelphia eagles

and i'm an eagles fan.

2]minnesota vikings[-8.5] vs new york giants
3]houston texans[-8.5] vs new england patriots
4]tampa bay bucs vs atlanta falcons[-3.5]
5]arizona cardinals[-3.5] vs green bay packers
6]denver broncos[-13.5] vs kansas city chiefs

1 base with with 5 games = 10 bets
10 bets x $300 = $3.000

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the base with
2 wins = $2.100
3 wins = $6.300
4 wins = $12.600
5 wins = $21.000

[W.HI.P]

2 georgia won
3 wisconsin won
4 stanford won
6 mississippi won

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we're already cashing in on $2.800 with our 4 wins so far.
2 more games left.......

Tuesday January 5
7]Orange Bowl
Iowa - Georgia Tech[-4.0]

Thursday January 7
8]BCS Championship
Texas - Alabama[-5.5]

here are the rest of our bets still running, in green, the games already won

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1 win in the last 2 games will bring us to 5 wins = $7.000

if we win both games, we'll get the maximum of 6 wins = $14.000

[W.HI.P]

Originally Posted by W.HI.P

even though week 17 has alwasy been good to us, due to the inbalance of betting that takes place on teams that need to win, we'll be saving our serious money for the free money play-off games.

we'll be using the cowboys as a base.

1] dallas cowboys[-2.5] vs philadelphia eagles

and i'm an eagles fan.

2]minnesota vikings[-8.5] vs new york giants
3]houston texans[-8.5] vs new england patriots
4]tampa bay bucs vs atlanta falcons[-3.5]
5]arizona cardinals[-3.5] vs green bay packers
6]denver broncos[-13.5] vs kansas city chiefs

1 base with with 5 games = 10 bets
10 bets x $300 = $3.000

123
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134
135
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145
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156

the base with
2 wins = $2.100
3 wins = $6.300
4 wins = $12.600
5 wins = $21.000

another good week, we've got the base, and 3 wins, so we'll be cashing in on $6.300 this week.
bringing our profits for this nfl season back up to +$33.300

the best is yet to come

[W.HI.P]

we can expand our wallets just a little bit for this week, but lets still save the serious money for the following weeks.

we'll be using the eagles as a base

1] dallas cowboys[-4.0] vs philadelphia eagles

perceptions are far from reality.
the superior team will win.

2]cincinnati bengals[-2.5] vs new york jets

another game where perceptions were falsely altered.
i don't think everyone bought this one.
the superior team should win this.

3]arizona cardinals[-2.5] vs green bay packers

aaron rogers should shine in this game as he has evolved into a dominant qb.
i don't trust the packers defence, but i can't say that the cardinals is any better.

4]new england patriots[-3.5] vs baltimore ravens

if you wanna send your team out full force week 17 to win a game you don't need to win, you're gonna pay for it.
bad managment from the patriots leads to the wes welker injury.
brady's line remains above par, but where does he throw the ball to when moss is covered.
the ravens defence will look pretty good facing this crippled attack.

1 base combined with 3 games = 3 bets
3 bets x $2.500 = $7.500

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the base with
2 wins = $17.500
3 wins = $52.500

[Mac_The_Handicapper]

Originally Posted by W.HI.P

Sunday December 20
1]New Orleans Bowl
Southern Mississippi[-3.5] - Middle Tenn. St.

Monday December 28
2]Independence Bowl
Texas A&M - Georgia[-7.0]

Tuesday December 29
3]Champs Sports Bowl
Miami (FL)[-3.5] - Wisconsin

4]Sun Bowl
Oklahoma[-9.5] - Stanford

5]Capital One Bowl
Penn St.[-2.5] - LSU

6]Cotton Bowl
Oklahoma St. - Mississippi[-3.0]

Tuesday January 5
7]Orange Bowl
Iowa - Georgia Tech[-4.0]

Thursday January 7
8]BCS Championship
Texas - Alabama[-5.5]

HONESTLY, I said it once I'll say it again. You are the BEST at picking College Bowl Games and March Madness. I mean you are good in all other sports as well, but you are a maniac when it comes to these two sports in particular.

5-2 with the National championship games pending. 1 of your losses Penn State was by Half a point.


Truly Amazing.

I have 6 different people who check this thread and follow your picks, ESPECIALLY during College Bowls/NFL Playoffs. And March Madness.

You are the man

[W.HI.P]

Originally Posted by Mac_The_Handicapper

HONESTLY, I said it once I'll say it again. You are the BEST at picking College Bowl Games and March Madness. I mean you are good in all other sports as well, but you are a maniac when it comes to these two sports in particular.

5-2 with the National championship games pending. 1 of your losses Penn State was by Half a point.


Truly Amazing.

I have 6 different people who check this thread and follow your picks, ESPECIALLY during College Bowls/NFL Playoffs. And March Madness.

You are the man

thank you sir.
just trying to guide some money in the right direction.
april might find us at our economical peak.... just in time for our long term bets in major league baseball.

[W.HI.P]

Originally Posted by Mac_The_Handicapper

btw, i took your advice on the boise state win over tcu.
only because tcu is well under par, not so much cause boise is anything special....
thank you.

this draft, apart from a few heavy pieces, will be a weaker one in depth.

[W.HI.P]

mlb

al east

new york yankees
its not really the line-up that puts this team into contention this year.
its the starting pitchers.
to add to cc.sabathia, they picked vazquez, who's coming off an outstanding season.
chamberlain makes up a perfect number 3, or even 2 for the future.
i don't think burnett fits this team or ball park.
what is pettite still doing around

tampa bay rays
this is a very serious team that will be dominating this sport throughout this decade.
the line-up is pure insanity
crawford
upton
longoria
pena
burrell
bartlett
zorbist
they picked up one of the best batting catchers in the game kelly shoppach to back up navarro
perez
price will end up this teams number 1 starter.
shields, garza, davis and niemann will win a lot of games with this team.
this rays bullpen is even stronger this season with the addition of rafael soriano.

baltimore orioles
this team is seriously improved, and you could see it coming as this franchise, unlike the jays, made the proper moves and now hold a team that can be competitive.
the line-up is truly elite, the only true questions that arise, are regarding the starting pitchers, who may just end up suprising us.
no doubt the bullpen is in tact with the additions.
i can see them finishing in 3rd place in this division

boston red sox
all 3 teams above have superior line-ups to the boston red-sox this season.
beckett is getting worse as he grows old.
i never liked lackey, even as an angel, another starter on the decline.
lester, matsuzaka, bucholz and wakefield are all under par.
the one and only thing that remains solid in this red-sox team, is the bullpen.
you can completely forget about this team competiting for any pennant anytime soon.


toronto blue jays
wtf is wrong with this team.
i'm willing to wager with anyone, that this blue jays team will finish in last place in this division.
its a non-existant team...its a disgrace to the game.
shame shame.
and to be in this division
other than lind, and maybe hill, there is nothing worth mentioning
there is not a division in baseball that would see this team anywhere but in last place.
this team is clearly, the worst team in baseball.

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i have to work tommorow, so i'll pick up on the other divisions at a later time.

also, be prepared to wager your serious money on this weekend nfl games..... very high stakes this week.

[W.HI.P]

the majority of my money this week is on the chargers straight up win.
i also hold the majority of my long term bet money on the chargers winning the afc and superbowl.
this is the week to go all out....green light to all of your winnings from this season and all other money saved for these playoffs.
i'm also putting two internet sites on the line on this chargers vs jets game.
in fact, if the chargers are not in the afc final, i will not post in this thread ever again

we'll be using the chargers as a base in the pointspread system as well.

1] san diego chargers[-7.5] vs new york jets
the chargers were better than the steelers last season, and they were better than the giants the year before.
no team in the nfl can even begin to be compared to this chargers team.
i stake my reputation on this game.

2]minnesota vikings[-1.5] vs dallas cowboys
this is such a miss-match its not funny.
the vikings defence is one of the greatest against the run...its been like that for quite some years.
their main weakness is against the pass.
because of this weakness, their defence, while playing against the pass, is forced to go all out on the pass rush.
tony romo's number 1 quality is his fast release, so, you can see how this game is a huge miss-match in that aspect.
keep in mind, there is a possibility that the nfc final takes place in this cowboys stadium....in fact, given the quality of the stadium, and the money invested, it is very likely that the nfc final will be held in such a place.

3] new orlean saints[-6.5] vs arizona cardinals
as i've pointed out before this season, this saints team is not that much better than last years saints.
i feel kinda silly betting on a team like the cardinals, as they are clearly inferior to the saints.
i pointed out last week how weak the cardinals defence is, however, it is not as weak as the saints.
three factors make me wager on the cardinals in this game.
1]perception
2]the spread
3]the possibility of the nfc final being held in dallas.

4]indianapolis colts[-6.5] vs baltimore ravens
in last weeks game, i pointed out how good this ravens defence will look against the crippled patriots attack, so yeah, ease down on the ravens defence, its weaker than it was last year... and peyton is going to pick it apart.
also, the ravens running game should work against the colts almost as well as it worked against the patriots.
in my books, peyton manning is the greatest qb in the history of the game.
also in my books, brady does not rank in the top 30.
the truth about this game is that i could argue on either side of the spread.
i would love to see the chargers vs the ravens in the afc final, but i'm afraid its not going to happen.
there are 3 main factors of me picking the colts in this game.
1]percpetion in regards to the ravens defence after last weeks game.
2]peyton manning
3]when i came home today, the nfl network was showing an in depth play by play ravens sideline show of last weeks game against the patriots..... it was very convincing, and is clearly meant to alter perception.

1 base with 3 games = 3 bets.
3 bets x $25.000 = $75.000

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the base with
2 wins = $175.000
3 wins = $525.000

all out here

[W.HI.P]

mlb

al east

new york yankees
its not really the line-up that puts this team into contention this year.
its the starting pitchers.
to add to cc.sabathia, they picked vazquez, who's coming off an outstanding season.
chamberlain makes up a perfect number 3, or even 2 for the future.
i don't think burnett fits this team or ball park.
what is pettite still doing around

tampa bay rays
this is a very serious team that will be dominating this sport throughout this decade.
the line-up is pure insanity
crawford
upton
longoria
pena
burrell
bartlett
zorbist
they picked up one of the best batting catchers in the game kelly shoppach to back up navarro
perez
price will end up this teams number 1 starter.
shields, garza, davis and niemann will win a lot of games with this team.
this rays bullpen is even stronger this season with the addition of rafael soriano.

baltimore orioles
this team is seriously improved, and you could see it coming as this franchise, unlike the jays, made the proper moves and now hold a team that can be competitive.
the line-up is truly elite, the only true questions that arise, are regarding the starting pitchers, who may just end up suprising us.
no doubt the bullpen is in tact with the additions.
i can see them finishing in 3rd place in this division

boston red sox
all 3 teams above have superior line-ups to the boston red-sox this season.
beckett is getting worse as he grows old.
i never liked lackey, even as an angel, another starter on the decline.
lester, matsuzaka, bucholz and wakefield are all under par.
the one and only thing that remains solid in this red-sox team, is the bullpen.
you can completely forget about this team competiting for any pennant anytime soon.


toronto blue jays
wtf is wrong with this team.
i'm willing to wager with anyone, that this blue jays team will finish in last place in this division.
its a non-existant team...its a disgrace to the game.
shame shame.
and to be in this division
other than lind, and maybe hill, there is nothing worth mentioning
there is not a division in baseball that would see this team anywhere but in last place.
this team is clearly, the worst team in baseball.

al central

chicago white sox
one would have to be nuts to not consider this team in this division.
its a serious team with an elite line-up, complimented by some serious starters and a very strong bullpen.

minnesota twins
i agree with the way the this team has been run.
it should start paying off this year or the next.
the twins hold some of the absolute elite players in the world.

detroit tigers
very interesting moves made in detroit that put them in contention in the near future.... but not quite yet.

kansas city royals
they hold some serious pieces, if they can hang on to them, they will reach and possibly surpass the teams in this division in a few years from now.

clevland indians
this team is far from contention despite the generally weak division.

al west

la angels
i am aware that the gap that existed in this division between the angels and the rest of the teams is getting smaller.... however, they still remain the elite in this division.

oakland a's
this is the team that will eventually overtake the angels
i'm not so sure they'll be ready to do that this season, however, they continue to make the right moves in rebuilding, so they are to be feared in a few years from now, or possibly sooner.

seattle mariners
ichiro suzuki and chone figgins make up the fastest 1-2 in the game. felix hernandez and cliff lee guarentee that this team will be above .500 this year.

texas rangers
power power power....i'm not sure that thats the way to win pennants.
you need some heavy duty starters to win, although i must admit that the rangers line-up is very impressive.

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on my way to work, so i'll still owe the national league.