Russian attack on country of Georgia

[TheMercenary]

Now this is funny as hell. What an idiot.

As Russia struggled to rally international support for its military action in Georgia, Vladimir Putin, the country's paramount leader, lashed out at the United States on Thursday, contending that the White House may have orchestrated the conflict to benefit one of the candidates in the American presidential election.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/08/...pe/29putin.php

[Griff]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I still don't buy that was a reason to go into Iraq.

If radical Islam ran through the region unchecked, it would disrupt the oil supply. Think of oil as a potential weapon in the terror war. This gives Bush a reason to attempt to institute a more democratic regime so that when Saddam falls he isn't replaced by Muhammed al Fluffer Nutter who would turn off the spiggot and support similar insurgencies in places like Saudi Arabia that actually grow people who attack us.

[lookout123]

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you fill in the blanks.

[Flint]

I've been meaning to make a "Cellar Mad Libs" thread, but now... nevermind. You insensitive bastard.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

In several ways, tw does not qualify as an intelligent poster, nor is he likely to start qualifying anytime soon. So deficient is he in this field that not even he should take his views seriously.

He assuredly does not qualify as either a democrat or a classical liberal.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Griff

If radical Islam ran through the region unchecked, it would disrupt the oil supply. Think of oil as a potential weapon in the terror war. This gives Bush a reason to attempt to institute a more democratic regime so that when Saddam falls he isn't replaced by Muhammed al Fluffer Nutter who would turn off the spiggot and support similar insurgencies in places like Saudi Arabia that actually grow people who attack us.

Although I don't disagree with your assessment I disagree with the weight of it as a reason we went in.

[deadbeater]

Originally Posted by Griff

If radical Islam ran through the region unchecked, it would disrupt the oil supply. Think of oil as a potential weapon in the terror war. This gives Bush a reason to attempt to institute a more democratic regime so that when Saddam falls he isn't replaced by Muhammed al Fluffer Nutter who would turn off the spiggot and support similar insurgencies in places like Saudi Arabia that actually grow people who attack us.

In other words, it's a war for oil, and China's oil as well.

[deadbeater]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Now this is funny as hell. What an idiot.



http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/08/...pe/29putin.php

Um, merc, I think Putin is a lot better at detecting intrigue than you think, especially something as obvious as this. This is part of Bush/Cheyney's preparation for the revival of the Cold War, and McCain, who fought a hot part of the Cold War, can claim experience in fighting a Cold War. Call us 'idiots' too for connecting the dots.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

"The revival of the Cold War"? DB, that's -- so hard to believe I wonder that you believe it. Explain yourself, and it better be thoroughly rational.

[piercehawkeye45]

There would be a few possible reasons why the United States would want to revive a cold war. The US is a world superpower and it, the ones in charge, want to keep it that way.

Russia and the former USSR have been bitter enemies ever since the end of WWII and the US has shown that it will be willing to do anything to get the upper hand in this war including dropping atomic bombs on already beaten countries and supplying Islamic extremist with weapons to fight against their Soviet invaders.

All we have to do is look back 2200 years in the Mediterranean to see a similar situation with Rome and Carthage. After the first Punic War, which Rome won, Carthage came back wanting revenge and Hannibal came into Roman territory, devastating them, before finally losing the second Punic War. Then, in between the second and third Punic war, Roman War Hawks would end every speech with some comment relating to the total destruction of Carthage, which they finally accomplished in later years.

Old Red Scare politicians, while not to the extreme as the Romans, still think in similar ways so they could want to start a second Cold War to either prevent a Russian "Hannibal" or to totally destroy Russia.

Another option is to look at who profits from Cold Wars, that can always give a hint onto what is happening as well.

[regular.joe]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Russia and the former USSR have been bitter enemies ever since the end of WWII

Is this exactly what you meant to say?

[piercehawkeye45]

Whoops.

The US and Russia/the former USSR have been.....

[classicman]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

the US has shown that it will be willing to do anything to get the upper hand in this war including dropping atomic bombs on already beaten countries

Huh?? please explain that one.

[piercehawkeye45]

The dropping of the atomic bomb on Japan was more of an attack against the USSR then Japan. It really makes sense when you think about it. Both countries knew a stand off was going to happen, Japan's oil supply was nearly zero (aka they were beaten and they knew it), Japan was trying to get a conditional surrender, the USSR, the same USSR that sliced through Germany, just declared war on Japan, and neither the US or Japan wanted a North and South Japan.

Historians agree that the war was going to end by the end of the month. Just that if it was held off until later, Japan most likely would have split in similar fashion to Germany,without the British and French sectors of course, because during the few days the USSR was at war with Japan there was no stopping it.

In defense of the US, no one knew just how powerful and symbolic the atomic bomb was going to be but it does show how far a country will go to get the upper hand in a standoff such as the one between the US and USSR.

[classicman]

Sorry PH - the way I read it was that you were implying that we were willing to drop the bomb now. "in this war including dropping atomic bombs"