01-17-2018, 05:30 PM | #121 |
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Of course the #MeToo movement won't accomplish that. I doubt very much anybody expects it to. I certainly don't.
The #MeToo movement is one expression of a much wider discourse. A much fucking longer discourse as well.
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01-17-2018, 05:55 PM | #123 |
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What #MeToo will accomplish is expending the public's attention span so a wider and more lengthy discourse is put on hold even longer.
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Like the HuffPo article it seems the starting point for women is what kind of sexual assaults/sexual harassment/bad dates they have experienced. When women talk, it turns out they pretty much all have had those experiences. That's shocking.
As an empathetic person, I have an urge to compare my own notes. But I was never sexually assaulted. Just regular-assaulted. Then we compared notes as men and it turns out we pretty much all had those experiences. But nobody was shocked. Because that's "just how it is". I suspect it's FAR worse for men physically, and a LITTLE worse for women emotionally; SCARIER for women, in general, because they are more vulnerable and are more likely to be killed in a one-on-one end-all conflict. Quote:
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01-17-2018, 06:53 PM | #125 |
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Apropos of nothing I give you two statistics:
1. Percentage of men who are the victim in severe domestic abuse cases ("beaten, burned, choked, kicked, slammed with a heavy object, or hit with a fist"): 40% (source: CDC via Yahoo) 2. Height of Aziz Ansari: 5' 6" because i knew you wanted this information |
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For those following the Grace story -
A great exchange happened between Ashleigh Banfield and the writer of the Grace story (not victim Grace, but journalist Katie Way). On Monday, Banfield criticized the story on HLN. On Tuesday, HLN asked if Katie Way wanted to come on and discuss it. She wrote an email in return. Here it is in full. Quote:
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My point about both types of violence mainly being perpetrated by men was not to suggest that it is less important that men face that kind of violence - it was to suggest you are focusing you're ire in the wrong direction if your concern is violence against men.
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01-17-2018, 08:50 PM | #128 |
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I've come down from my comfy spot in the Cellar tagline to say:
I get the impression he's drawing attention to the disparity between counter-violence movements for women and men exacerbated by the "Me" in #MeToo meaning just women. Why do the women need/have that while the men don't? They are both, after all, being victimized by men. Now I'm going back up to the tagline to gaze down upon this thread an nod knowingly. |
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Yeah let us not have misdirection here, I am 100% in favor of the non-diluted #MeToo movement, as well as most brands of traditional feminism* which is why I am appalled at how it was, in my opinion, abused in or by this particular case. I don't think my ironic point bears on any of that. There are lots of ironies in life, that's just one of them.
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01-17-2018, 09:12 PM | #130 |
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Why didn't the people making it happen make it happen earlier when others were coming forward over Bill Cosby?
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01-17-2018, 09:25 PM | #131 |
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Oy. I'm changing your tagline.
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01-17-2018, 09:45 PM | #132 |
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I feel as though I've been violated ... #MeToo!
Anyone got Rose McGowan's telephone number? True story: Once upon a time I had a fling with a gal named McGowan. Early in the relationship I asked if she had any siblings. She said "No ... I have a cousin named Rose." Then she denied it. She was just kidding; but, this topic reminds me of that. She was more attractive than Rose. |
01-17-2018, 10:13 PM | #133 |
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I vividly remember one night after months of dinners and small talk, she was naked, I was not. I was giving her a long slow backrub with an occasional kiss on the butt. She suddenly jumped up, ran in the bedroom and threw on her robe. Confused, I followed her and said, at least tell me what I did wrong. With fire in her eyes she spit out, you didn’t roll me over! Never saw her again.
I wasn't aggressive enough? WTF?
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01-17-2018, 11:09 PM | #134 |
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Could be that she was just really horny and became sexually frustrated when you didn't jump her bones right away.
Could be she thought you didn't like what you saw enough to go face to face and she was either insecure or vain about it. Could be that she couldn't go through with it for some other reason and decided to let you think it was your fault. Could be that she really wanted a foot massage. |
01-18-2018, 01:40 PM | #135 |
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