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Spexxvet · 06-01-2013, 08:39 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/31/us/fbi...obe/index.html

I can remember The Weathermen and Black Panthers, but does it seem more typical that conservatives, when faced with opposition, tend to resort to violence more than liberals? I can't recall many examples of liberal violence since 1980. Am I suffering from selective memory?

xoxoxoBruce · 06-01-2013, 08:44 AM

Surely you remember when tw firebombed the Liberty Bell.

Lamplighter · 06-01-2013, 08:46 AM

Merc and a few other Dwellars would refer you to the "Occupy... " movement.

Lamplighter · 06-01-2013, 08:48 AM

TW is a liberal ?

Griff · 06-01-2013, 09:03 AM

The left in the US seems to stick to property destruction for the most part. I guess I'm thinking of radical enviros, PETA, and the anti-fracking folks. I'd say the poison mail crowd is limited to a few unbalanced folks, but there are probably huge numbers of right-wingers who would shoot back if their property rights were violated. I've got a neighbor hoarding ammunition right now and I'm starting to wonder about his rationality. Don't blame country people though, this guy got scared of the other and moved up here from the city.

Lamplighter · 06-01-2013, 09:06 AM

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... and the anti-fracking folks

Srylsly ?

Griff · 06-01-2013, 09:08 AM

Oh yah, mostly just tire spiking but they stay busy.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-01-2013, 09:16 AM

Ooh, that can backfire. He was raised in the city or burb, with lots of people around. Develops a fear of half of "them", and escapes to the country without realizing he was kind of depending on the other half of "them" for mutual protection.

Now every bump in the night is unfamiliar, and a threat. Paranoia grows faster than the ammo pile. Hey, that bump could be the government, too. Why was the mailman loitering by the box? That's not the right UPS brown. Honey, did you break the seal on the new jar of peanut butter?

Lamplighter · 06-01-2013, 09:21 AM

OK, at that level you can include the "tree huggers" of the Pacific NW,
who climbed into trees to prevent lumber companies from clear-cutting old-growth timber.
There were a couple of incidents of heavy logging equipment being vandalized.

Strangely, when the tree huggers came down the day the issue was being heard in court,
that night the tree was mysteriously "ringed" by a chain saw to kill it.

ZenGum · 06-01-2013, 07:34 PM

Would you consider Unabomber Kazinski to be left wing/liberal?

Personally, I'm wondering if it might be time for some militant radical liberalism. The hypocrisy and ruthlessness of theistic plutocracy makes it invulnerable to rational criticism. Where words fail, we must resort to sticks and stones.

tw · 06-02-2013, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter

TW is a liberal ?

A Weatherman. And hurricane season has started again. I'm so excited. I love the violence.

Lamplighter · 06-02-2013, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum

Would you consider Unabomber Kazinski to be left wing/liberal?
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No, at least I don't... as I remember him he not really political,
but was more against development and industrialization.
Maybe others remember more about his "manifestos"

Lamplighter · 06-02-2013, 09:32 PM

Depending on how far back you want to go in US history,
there was John Brown and his raid on Harper's Ferry
in an attempt to trigger a uprising against slavery.

That one didn't work out too well.

Then depending on your definitions of liberal, etc. there was the
"union movements" such as the Molly McQuires in the coal mines of Pennsylvania, etc.

And many of the union strikes against management of various industries
in the 19th and 20th centuries turned to violence (by one side or the other)
But I would not really consider the union strikes in the same categories as today's liberal politics and social issues.

BigV · 06-06-2013, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Lamplighter, you've fallen for an old trick used by conspiracy wackos. They make wild unsupported claims, and while you spend all afternoon finding evidence to refute their bullshit, they steal your hubcaps.

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Originally Posted by ZenGum

Would you consider Unabomber Kazinski to be left wing/liberal?

Personally, I'm wondering if it might be time for some militant radical liberalism. The hypocrisy and ruthlessness of theistic plutocracy makes it invulnerable to rational criticism. Where words fail, we must resort to sticks and stones.

ZenGum, theistic plutocracies are not alone in their immunity to rational criticisms. I heard today a few references like "...this is speculation, but it's informed speculation" or "... I understand the fine line he's trying to walk saying he doesn't want to make any conclusions before the investigation is done, but we know what this looks like" implying that, you know, we know what's gonna happen. We/I/you know what our conclusion will be.

I don't know how to battle this kind of crap, and I'm running out of hubcaps.

classicman · 06-10-2013, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

it seem more typical that conservatives, when faced with opposition, tend to resort to violence more than liberals?

...or unstable wives trying to frame their husbands.

06-01-2013, 08:39 AM	#1
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	Ricin letters http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/31/us/fbi...obe/index.html I can remember The Weathermen and Black Panthers, but does it seem more typical that conservatives, when faced with opposition, tend to resort to violence more than liberals? I can't recall many examples of liberal violence since 1980. Am I suffering from selective memory? __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

06-01-2013, 08:44 AM	#2
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Surely you remember when tw firebombed the Liberty Bell. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-01-2013, 09:03 AM	#5
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	The left in the US seems to stick to property destruction for the most part. I guess I'm thinking of radical enviros, PETA, and the anti-fracking folks. I'd say the poison mail crowd is limited to a few unbalanced folks, but there are probably huge numbers of right-wingers who would shoot back if their property rights were violated. I've got a neighbor hoarding ammunition right now and I'm starting to wonder about his rationality. Don't blame country people though, this guy got scared of the other and moved up here from the city. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

06-01-2013, 09:08 AM	#7
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Oh yah, mostly just tire spiking but they stay busy. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

06-01-2013, 09:16 AM	#8
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Ooh, that can backfire. He was raised in the city or burb, with lots of people around. Develops a fear of half of "them", and escapes to the country without realizing he was kind of depending on the other half of "them" for mutual protection. Now every bump in the night is unfamiliar, and a threat. Paranoia grows faster than the ammo pile. Hey, that bump could be the government, too. Why was the mailman loitering by the box? That's not the right UPS brown. Honey, did you break the seal on the new jar of peanut butter? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-01-2013, 08:46 AM	#3
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	Merc and a few other Dwellars would refer you to the "Occupy... " movement.

06-01-2013, 08:48 AM	#4
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	TW is a liberal ?

06-01-2013, 09:21 AM	#9
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	OK, at that level you can include the "tree huggers" of the Pacific NW, who climbed into trees to prevent lumber companies from clear-cutting old-growth timber. There were a couple of incidents of heavy logging equipment being vandalized. Strangely, when the tree huggers came down the day the issue was being heard in court, that night the tree was mysteriously "ringed" by a chain saw to kill it.

06-01-2013, 07:34 PM	#10
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Would you consider Unabomber Kazinski to be left wing/liberal? Personally, I'm wondering if it might be time for some militant radical liberalism. The hypocrisy and ruthlessness of theistic plutocracy makes it invulnerable to rational criticism. Where words fail, we must resort to sticks and stones. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

06-02-2013, 09:32 PM	#13
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	Depending on how far back you want to go in US history, there was John Brown and his raid on Harper's Ferry in an attempt to trigger a uprising against slavery. That one didn't work out too well. Then depending on your definitions of liberal, etc. there was the "union movements" such as the Molly McQuires in the coal mines of Pennsylvania, etc. And many of the union strikes against management of various industries in the 19th and 20th centuries turned to violence (by one side or the other) But I would not really consider the union strikes in the same categories as today's liberal politics and social issues.

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