6/8/2004: 209-year-old royal heart - Page 2

poohbearbeth · 06-08-2004, 08:26 PM

I've had a broken heart

Once more you opened the door, my heart will go on...........

ckigar · 06-08-2004, 09:40 PM

This article from the NY Times (registration req'd) profiles "Prince Charles Louis Edmond de Bourbon, count of Poitiers - or, for short, King Charles XII by Right, the legitimate heir to the French throne..." but.. since the DNA from this heart doesn't line up with his... it mustn't be the real thing...

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/08/in...pe/08pret.html

bluesdave · 06-08-2004, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ckigar
but.. since the DNA from this heart doesn't line up with his... it mustn't be the real thing...

You didn't read the article very carefully, did you? It says that Mr. de Bourbon's lineage is in dispute, not the heart. The last paragraph says that a DNA comparison of a strand of Marie Antoinette's hair matched the heart:

Quote:

Four years ago, DNA from a sliver of the withered heart, now gnarled and dry as a piece of wood, was found to match that from a locket of Marie Antoinette's hair, satisfying many scholars that it belonged to Louis XVII.

lookout123 · 06-08-2004, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
No, but I read "The Telltale Heart".

is that like "braveheart"?

lumberjim · 06-08-2004, 11:47 PM

i've been stuck inside your heart shaped box_ for_weeks
neer neer neer ne ne neeer

xoxoxoBruce · 06-09-2004, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lookout123

is that like "braveheart"?

No, your thinking of Captain Beefheart.

wolf · 06-09-2004, 09:35 AM

Is that a Faberge` heart container, or a cheap knockoff?

dar512 · 06-09-2004, 10:15 AM

Reminds me of a Robert Bloch quote:

"I have the heart of a little boy -- pickled in a jar on my desk."

Slothboy · 06-09-2004, 10:38 AM

*raises glass*

To Louis XVII, we heartly knew you.

melidasaur · 06-09-2004, 11:41 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science....ap/index.html

Pi · 06-09-2004, 11:51 AM

From CNN-article :
"There, it was placed in a royal crypt containing the remains of Louis XVII's parents, Marie-Antoinette and Louis XVI."

Maybe I'm wrong but Marie-Antoinette and Louis XVI were not burried in a crypt but thrown in mass-graves.

melidasaur · 06-09-2004, 12:26 PM

From www.wikipedia.com:

On the 16th of October 1793 Marie Antoinette was led to the guillotine, leaving behind her a touching letter to Madame Elizabeth, known as her "Testament."

She is buried in Saint Denis Basilica, Paris, France next to her husband, King Louis XVI of France.

Pi · 06-09-2004, 01:24 PM

Ok, checked it out. They were actually thrown into mass-graves, but in 1815 they were exhumed an burried in Saint-Denis...
My fault.
But actually Louis XVI should be named Roi des Français (king of frenchmen). That was his last title.

melidasaur · 06-09-2004, 01:30 PM

a mass grave makes much more sense - the French hated those people!

Pi · 06-09-2004, 01:43 PM

Yes, until 1815, when the reign of Bonaparte was over and France became a monarchy again...

06-08-2004, 09:40 PM	#17
ckigar Neophyte-in-training Join Date: May 2001 Location: Kansas City Posts: 3	Telltale Heart Deals Blow to Pretender to a Throne This article from the NY Times (registration req'd) profiles "Prince Charles Louis Edmond de Bourbon, count of Poitiers - or, for short, King Charles XII by Right, the legitimate heir to the French throne..." but.. since the DNA from this heart doesn't line up with his... it mustn't be the real thing... http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/08/in...pe/08pret.html

06-08-2004, 11:47 PM	#20
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	i've been stuck inside your heart shaped box_ for_weeks neer neer neer ne ne neeer __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

06-09-2004, 09:35 AM	#22
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Is that a Faberge` heart container, or a cheap knockoff? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

06-09-2004, 10:38 AM	#24
Slothboy *No known superpowers. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Oregon Posts: 48	raises glass To Louis XVII, we heartly knew you. __________________ Super perfundo on the early eve of your day.

06-09-2004, 11:41 AM	#25
melidasaur Traded your soul for pogs. Join Date: May 2004 Location: Champaign, IL Posts: 646	http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science....ap/index.html __________________ I love England, what can I say?

06-08-2004, 08:26 PM	#16
poohbearbeth Keeper of the Decorum Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 59	I've had a broken heart Once more you opened the door, my heart will go on...........

06-09-2004, 10:15 AM	#23
dar512 dar512 is now Pete Zicato Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburb Posts: 4,968	Reminds me of a Robert Bloch quote: "I have the heart of a little boy -- pickled in a jar on my desk."

06-09-2004, 11:51 AM	#26
Pi desperate finder Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 437	From CNN-article : "There, it was placed in a royal crypt containing the remains of Louis XVII's parents, Marie-Antoinette and Louis XVI." Maybe I'm wrong but Marie-Antoinette and Louis XVI were not burried in a crypt but thrown in mass-graves. __________________ Complex simplex

06-09-2004, 12:26 PM	#27
melidasaur Traded your soul for pogs. Join Date: May 2004 Location: Champaign, IL Posts: 646	From www.wikipedia.com: On the 16th of October 1793 Marie Antoinette was led to the guillotine, leaving behind her a touching letter to Madame Elizabeth, known as her "Testament." She is buried in Saint Denis Basilica, Paris, France next to her husband, King Louis XVI of France. __________________ I love England, what can I say?

06-09-2004, 01:24 PM	#28
Pi desperate finder Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 437	Ok, checked it out. They were actually thrown into mass-graves, but in 1815 they were exhumed an burried in Saint-Denis... My fault. But actually Louis XVI should be named Roi des Français (king of frenchmen). That was his last title. __________________ Complex simplex

06-09-2004, 01:30 PM	#29
melidasaur Traded your soul for pogs. Join Date: May 2004 Location: Champaign, IL Posts: 646	a mass grave makes much more sense - the French hated those people! __________________ I love England, what can I say?

06-09-2004, 01:43 PM	#30
Pi desperate finder Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 437	Yes, until 1815, when the reign of Bonaparte was over and France became a monarchy again... __________________ Complex simplex

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