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Old 05-29-2011, 07:07 AM   #1
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How America Screws Its Soldiers

I found this article interesting. To me, it rings frighteningly true. I mean really, a 10+ year war and you barely hear any outcry from the public about it. That is kinda sad, and to me it seems we've become complacent about it. For almost half of my life, we have been at war. Its practically normal to me. What does that say about this country, and worse yet, about me? The answer I come up with does not make me like myself very much. For all I know, I have lost friends I knew since kindergarten to these wars. I'm too afraid to check, so I just decide to go on my merry way not knowing.
I really do want to try to be more aware of the dangers our military faces, and be more thankful for them. I also hope to end these conflicts soon so that they don't have to face them as often for me. One point in his life my brother was set on joining the air force and becoming a pilot. I am honestly glad he did not end up doing that. I don't have enough patriotism to want my brother to be sacrificed for this country. Hmm...I used the word "sacrifice" without really thinking hard about the meaning of it. Now that I read that sentence, it kinda hits hard.
One definition of sacrifice:
the surrender or destruction of something prized or desirable for the sake of something considered as having a higher or more pressing claim.

Human sacrifice, alive and well in this country...

Sorry for the terrible amount of rambling, thats just kinda how my mind is this morning.

Thank you troops for sacrificing yourselves for this country and for me. I, at least, do not deserve it.

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Everyone claims to “Support Our Troops.” But as Andrew J. Bacevich explains, telling the military it can do whatever it wants works for everyone—except for the soldiers themselves.
Riders on Boston subways and trolleys are accustomed to seeing placards that advertise research being conducted at the city’s many teaching hospitals. One that recently caught my eye, announcing an experimental “behavioral treatment,” posed this question to potential subjects: “Are you in the U.S. military or a veteran disturbed by terrible things you have experienced?”
Just below the question, someone had scrawled this riposte in blue ink: “Thank God for these Men and Women. USA all the way.”
United States Marines place a colleague wounded in an IED strike into a waiting medevac helicopter in Helmand Province of southern Afghanistan, Friday, May 13, 2011. (Kevin Frayer / AP Photo)
Here on a 30 x 36 inch piece of cardboard was the distilled essence of the present-day relationship between the American people and their military. In the eyes of citizens, the American soldier has a dual identity: as hero but also as victim. As victims—Wounded Warriors —soldiers deserve the best care money can buy; hence, the emphasis being paid to issues like PTSD. As heroes, those who serve and sacrifice embody the virtues that underwrite American greatness. They therefore merit unstinting admiration.
Whatever practical meaning the slogan “support the troops” may possess, it lays here: in praise expressed for those choosing to wear the uniform, and in assistance made available to those who suffer as a consequence of that choice.
As the 10th anniversary of what we used to call the Global War on Terror approaches, a plausible, realistic blueprint for bringing that enterprise to a conclusion does not exist.
From the perspective of the American people, the principal attribute of this relationship is that it entails no real obligations or responsibilities. Face it: It costs us nothing yet enables us to feel good about ourselves. In an unmerited act of self-forgiveness, we thereby expunge the sin of the Vietnam era when opposition to an unpopular war found at least some Americans venting their unhappiness on the soldiers sent to fight it. The homeward-bound G.I. spat upon by spoiled and impudent student activists may be an urban legend, but the fiction persists and has long since trumped reality.
Today such egregious misbehavior has become unimaginable. Even if the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are not especially popular or successful, no one blames the troops. Instead we cheer them, pray for them, and let them go to the front of the line when passing through airport security. And we take considerable satisfaction in doing so.
From the perspective of those who engineer America’s wars, the principal attribute of this relationship is that it obviates any need for accountability. For nearly a decade now, popular willingness to “support the troops” has provided unlimited drawing rights on the United States Treasury.
Since 9/11, in waging its various campaigns, overt and covert, the United States military has expended hundreds of billions of (mostly borrowed) dollars. By the time the last invoice gets paid, the total will be in the trillions. Is the money being well spent? Are we getting good value? Is it possible that some of the largesse showered on U.S. forces trying to pacify Kandahar could be better put to use in helping to rebuild Cleveland? Given the existing terms of the civil-military relationship, even to pose such questions is unseemly. For politicians sending soldiers into battle, generals presiding over long, drawn-out, inconclusive campaigns, and contractors reaping large profits as a consequence, this war-comes-first mentality is exceedingly agreeable.
One wonders how many of those serving in the ranks are taken in by this fraud. The relationship between American people and their military—we love you; do whatever you want—seems to work for everyone. Everyone, that is, except soldiers themselves. They face the prospect of war without foreseeable end.
Americans once believed war to be a great evil. Whenever possible, war was to be avoided. When circumstances made war unavoidable, Americans wanted peace swiftly restored.
Present-day Americans, few of them directly affected by events in Iraq or Afghanistan, find war tolerable. They accept it. Since 9/11, war has become normalcy. Peace has become an entirely theoretical construct. A report of G.I.s getting shot at, maimed, or killed is no longer something the average American gets exercised about. Rest assured that no such reports will interfere with plans for the long weekend that Memorial Day makes possible.
Members of the civil-military-corporate elite find war more than tolerable. Within its ranks, as Chris Hedges has noted, war imparts meaning and excitement to life. It serves as a medium through which ambitions are fulfilled and power is accrued and exercised. In Washington, the benefits offered by war’s continuation easily outweigh any benefits to be gained by ending war. So why bother to try?
As the 10th anniversary of what Americans once called their Global War on Terror approaches, a plausible, realistic blueprint for bringing that enterprise to a conclusion does not exist. Those who might once have felt some responsibility for articulating such a plan—the president, his chief lieutenants, senior military leaders—no longer feel any obligation to do so. As a practical matter, they devote themselves to war’s perpetuation, closing one front while opening another. More strikingly still, we the people allow our leaders to evade this basic responsibility to articulate a plan for peace. By implication, we endorse the unspoken assumption that peace has become implausible.
Here at last we come to the dirty little secret that underlines all the chatter about “supporting the troops.” The people in charge don’t really believe that the burdens borne by our soldiers will ever end and they are not really looking for ways to do so. As for the rest of us, well, we’re OK with that.
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Old 05-29-2011, 07:57 AM   #2
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War has been reduced to just another business and we're not the first to do so. There are countries procrastinating over accepting peace because war (or the looming threat of war) puts them on the map when they would otherwise be insignificant on the world stage. Being unable to change them, we're tempted to join them for our own selfish reasons. Our all volunteer military has made that possible. Since no one has to be a part of it, we can let the marketplace determine the value of perpetual war.
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Old 05-29-2011, 11:45 PM   #3
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War has been reduced to just another business and we're not the first to do so.
The Romans and the British ran empires for centuries using war as a revenue generator. It also keeps the common people distracted.
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Old 05-30-2011, 01:04 AM   #4
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Revenue through (over)expansion of territory, taxation, and theft of resources. Hard to do to nations these days.

Then again..
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Old 05-30-2011, 02:13 PM   #5
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*slaps soldiers on the ass* "Who's your daddy?"

Something like that, I think.
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Old 05-30-2011, 10:40 PM   #6
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Old 05-31-2011, 08:48 AM   #7
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we can let the marketplace determine the value of perpetual war.
That is perceptive and disgustingly unfortunate.
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Old 06-24-2011, 09:41 AM   #8
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Great job Mr. President!!! I think some speech writer just lost his job.

Obama mistakes first surviving Medal of Honor recipient for dead hero soldier during address to U.S. troops

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1QCkQcdRN
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