9/24/2002: Ear candling

Undertoad · 09-24-2002, 01:28 PM

In the process of "candling", a hollow candle is put in someone's ear and lit. Which is supposed to create a vacuum to draw out excess wax and "toxins". It's also supposed to clear out your sinuses. And the wax and "toxins" are supposed to be burned by the flame, once drawn out.

Except that it's just a bunch of nonsense. There's no way that anything, especially ear wax, can be drawn out of the ear by creating a negative pressure. If the process in fact succeeds in any measure, it is more likely to rupture the ear drum.

The sinuses are connected via the inner ear and you regulate pressure there all the time. If a negative pressure drained anything out of the ear, we'd all have draining ears on airplane flights. Eww.

09-24-2002, 02:05 PM

I have a friend that uses these, and he tells me that a) the stuff doesn't get burned up by the flame and b) you wouldn't BELIEVE the shit that ends up inside these candles after you use 'em (they don't burn down all the way - just to the plate). So anyway, he never mentioned "toxins" or clearing sinuses - just that it was good for cleaning his ears.

YMMV, of course.

Undertoad · 09-24-2002, 02:34 PM

More recently, two investigators tested candles ... they demonstrated that all residue originated from the candle and that no ear wax was removed from the ear [2].

http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quackery.../candling.html

09-24-2002, 03:33 PM

Hehe. I forwarded that to him. Wonder what he says.

Undertoad · 09-24-2002, 04:43 PM

"Say, Dave, thanks for saving me a lot of money and time."

09-24-2002, 04:51 PM

Well, he was raving about it before. So I'm thinking he might be disinclined to believe that site.

All I had to go on was his word, and the only believable bit of it (I was skeptical at first) was that there was a lot of residue extracted... well, that site explains that. But he had been talking about how he hears better afterward and whatnot - so, that's why I'm guessing he'll be in denial.

juju · 09-24-2002, 09:17 PM

God damn people are stupid. This is why religion is so widespread.

jaguar · 09-24-2002, 09:25 PM

Was reading xenu.net earlier, kinda makes this look a tad begine

Tobiasly · 09-24-2002, 10:03 PM

Hey Dave, I can see where this technique could be extended for use in other orifices, for those who like to "get rid of anything that shouldn't be there".

Nic Name · 09-24-2002, 10:55 PM

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russotto · 09-25-2002, 03:55 PM

Whatever happened to just violating the Q-tip labeling? Feels good and you know that yellow stuff that comes out ain't from the cotton.

Slight · 09-25-2002, 04:43 PM

One of my family members bought some of these once. I think they tried one one me. I was very skeptical that that much shit came out of my ear so I asked If I could burn one with out it being in my ear. They let me do it and I remember correctly that was the last ear candle ever burnt in our house. One word for ya:

FAKE!

InkEye · 09-26-2002, 01:01 AM

Let me tell ya... I'm a pretty big skeptic of most things, but I have an aunt who really uses these ear candles as her son has had frequent ear problems in the past (infections).

It looks silly, it doesn't seem possible, and you think it must be the wax from the candle.

But don't knock it until you've tried it. The experience is really different. The first time you do it, the candle removes SO much crap from your ears, most of it an ear-wax colored powder, with some longer strips of gooie wax. I mean a ton of it comes out.

So you think, well it can't be ear wax. Do another candle, same ear, you get significantly less crud. Oh, and all the while you can hear the "thoop" sound, and feel the junk just oozing up and out; it almost itches as it moves. You can even feel the heat of the air coming down your ear though the flame of the candle is a good foot or two away from your head.

I could give you a hundred stories about it, but the most convincing was with my own mom, as she is notoriously hard of hearing. After a couple of ear candles in ONE ear... my aunt said she had never seen so much crap come out of anyone's ear.

I really don't know what to think now. Why it'd be a scam I don't know since my aunt doesn't charge a penny for doing this. And it's hard to say it's not ear wax because the candle wax is usually either a purple or blue color and generally doesn't run when burnt, but the ear wax is almost always the same shade of yellow-orange.

InkEye · 09-26-2002, 01:14 AM

Oh, I forgot to mention... I theorize that the reason why your ear just doesn't ooze wax on an airplane but the candle draws the wax is because the melting point for ear wax is really quite low. Low enough that heated air will liquify it, but not a warm sunny day. An airplane cabin doesn't have heated air, so that's why it doesn't just ooz on out.

It may be that the cone-shape of the candle creates a vortex of air that blasts through the center, enters the ear, melts the ear wax, pushes the wax back up through the outside along the inner wall of the candle, where it solidifies when the fire of the candle is extinguished.

Or, it may be that the candle burning at the top consumes air from the bottom, drawing air up through the candle and out the top, but this doesn't explain the heat sensation you experience.

Don't know for sure, but that's my theory about how it works. I may have it wrong, don't know. All I can tell is what I've seen.

juju · 09-26-2002, 02:08 AM

Dude, you're scaring me. Didn't anyone ever tell you never to put anything in your ear?? You're likely to give yourself permanant ear damage.

09-24-2002, 01:28 PM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	9/24/2002: Ear candling In the process of "candling", a hollow candle is put in someone's ear and lit. Which is supposed to create a vacuum to draw out excess wax and "toxins". It's also supposed to clear out your sinuses. And the wax and "toxins" are supposed to be burned by the flame, once drawn out. Except that it's just a bunch of nonsense. There's no way that anything, especially ear wax, can be drawn out of the ear by creating a negative pressure. If the process in fact succeeds in any measure, it is more likely to rupture the ear drum. The sinuses are connected via the inner ear and you regulate pressure there all the time. If a negative pressure drained anything out of the ear, we'd all have draining ears on airplane flights. Eww.

09-24-2002, 02:05 PM	#2
dave Guest Posts: n/a	I have a friend that uses these, and he tells me that a) the stuff <b>doesn't</b> get burned up by the flame and b) you wouldn't BELIEVE the shit that ends up inside these candles after you use 'em (they don't burn down all the way - just to the plate). So anyway, he never mentioned "toxins" or clearing sinuses - just that it was good for cleaning his ears. YMMV, of course.

09-24-2002, 04:51 PM	#6
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Well, he was <b>raving</b> about it before. So I'm thinking he might be disinclined to believe that site. All I had to go on was his word, and the only believable bit of it (I was skeptical at first) was that there was a lot of residue extracted... well, that site explains <b>that</b>. But he had been talking about how he hears better afterward and whatnot - so, that's why I'm guessing he'll be in denial.

09-24-2002, 09:25 PM	#8
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	Was reading xenu.net earlier, kinda makes this look a tad begine __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

09-26-2002, 01:01 AM	#13
InkEye Questionist Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 8	Skeptic? So am I... BUT... Let me tell ya... I'm a pretty big skeptic of most things, but I have an aunt who really uses these ear candles as her son has had frequent ear problems in the past (infections). It looks silly, it doesn't seem possible, and you think it must be the wax from the candle. But don't knock it until you've tried it. The experience is really different. The first time you do it, the candle removes SO much crap from your ears, most of it an ear-wax colored powder, with some longer strips of gooie wax. I mean a ton of it comes out. So you think, well it can't be ear wax. Do another candle, same ear, you get significantly less crud. Oh, and all the while you can hear the "thoop" sound, and feel the junk just oozing up and out; it almost itches as it moves. You can even feel the heat of the air coming down your ear though the flame of the candle is a good foot or two away from your head. I could give you a hundred stories about it, but the most convincing was with my own mom, as she is notoriously hard of hearing. After a couple of ear candles in ONE ear... my aunt said she had never seen so much crap come out of anyone's ear. I really don't know what to think now. Why it'd be a scam I don't know since my aunt doesn't charge a penny for doing this. And it's hard to say it's not ear wax because the candle wax is usually either a purple or blue color and generally doesn't run when burnt, but the ear wax is almost always the same shade of yellow-orange.

09-24-2002, 02:34 PM	#3
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	More recently, two investigators tested candles ... they demonstrated that all residue originated from the candle and that no ear wax was removed from the ear [2]. http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quackery.../candling.html

09-24-2002, 03:33 PM	#4
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Hehe. I forwarded that to him. Wonder what he says.

09-24-2002, 04:43 PM	#5
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	"Say, Dave, thanks for saving me a lot of money and time."

09-24-2002, 09:17 PM	#7
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	God damn people are stupid. This is why religion is so widespread.

09-24-2002, 10:03 PM	#9
Tobiasly hot Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Jeffersonville, IN (near Louisville) Posts: 892	Hey Dave, I can see where this technique could be extended for use in other orifices, for those who like to "get rid of anything that shouldn't be there".

09-24-2002, 10:55 PM	#10
Nic Name retired Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,930	Novelty penis candle reaches £16,000 in online auction -- google

09-25-2002, 03:55 PM	#11
russotto Professor Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,788	Whatever happened to just violating the Q-tip labeling? Feels good and you know that yellow stuff that comes out ain't from the cotton.

09-25-2002, 04:43 PM	#12
Slight Semi-Evil Genius Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Boulder CO Posts: 195	One of my family members bought some of these once. I think they tried one one me. I was very skeptical that that much shit came out of my ear so I asked If I could burn one with out it being in my ear. They let me do it and I remember correctly that was the last ear candle ever burnt in our house. One word for ya: FAKE!

09-26-2002, 01:14 AM	#14
InkEye Questionist Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 8	Oh, I forgot to mention... I theorize that the reason why your ear just doesn't ooze wax on an airplane but the candle draws the wax is because the melting point for ear wax is really quite low. Low enough that heated air will liquify it, but not a warm sunny day. An airplane cabin doesn't have heated air, so that's why it doesn't just ooz on out. It may be that the cone-shape of the candle creates a vortex of air that blasts through the center, enters the ear, melts the ear wax, pushes the wax back up through the outside along the inner wall of the candle, where it solidifies when the fire of the candle is extinguished. Or, it may be that the candle burning at the top consumes air from the bottom, drawing air up through the candle and out the top, but this doesn't explain the heat sensation you experience. Don't know for sure, but that's my theory about how it works. I may have it wrong, don't know. All I can tell is what I've seen.

09-26-2002, 02:08 AM	#15
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	Dude, you're scaring me. Didn't anyone ever tell you never to put anything in your ear?? You're likely to give yourself permanant ear damage.

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