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01-28-2003, 03:52 PM | #61 |
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Well, you like to think the President is sharp, top of his class. But as it was in grade 10, the popular kid gets the votes, the smarter ones are in the background.
So what is the administration's play? It will be interesting to see if this rogue, righteous "bad cop" develops into some positive last-minute diplomacy with Iraq. |
01-28-2003, 10:47 PM | #62 | |
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VietNam circa 1962. We are told everything is going fine - a light at the end of a tunnel. We were lied even as rebels with homemade rifles destroyed American B-57s. Afghanistan is years, maybe decades from being solved. Read their history. We would be insane to start unnecessary wars elsewhere in the Arab world. We did not get bin Laden or his top people. They are suspected to be in places such as Pakistan where Muslims are being recruited to liberate Afghanistan. What happens when a Christian nation undertakes a 'crusade' to conquer a Muslim nation - to steal oil and force American concepts on its people. Suddenly, bin Laden has recruits from everywhere for the liberation of Afghanistan. bin Laden and Saddam are adversaries. Neither is yet that popular among all Muslims. However what happens when the US invades Iraq? Iraqis have no problem recruiting support throughout the Arab world. Even worse, bin Laden becomes resounding popular among Muslims. Are you ready for many years of military occupation in Iraq AND to have the situation in Afghanistan deteriorate? Are your ready for a Muslim world bent on suicide attacks on Americans? An attack on Iraq would make the current friendly Afghanistan government an enemy of its own people as well as all Muslims. An Iraqi invasion has nothing but bad tidings for all Americans. It is not just in S Korea that US soldiers are, in only past two years, now persona non-grata. This week, F-16s, B-1s, Apache choppers, etc were involved in a major battle in mountains between Kandahar and Pakistan. Who were these people? Sworn enemies of the Taliban. So why were Americans involved in a massive battle with potential allies? Therein lies a problem. Afghanistan is far from settled. We are even at war with what should be allies. Afghanistan is that unstable; that undefined; that uncertain. George Jr is even making enemies where we should have friends. And he is widening the war. At what point do we even find ourselves without any allies? Even Canada is saying NO to George Jr. A soldier recently returned from Saudia Arabia. His description? Saudis are nasty to Americans. Was not true years ago - pre George Jr. But we have a president who would destroy everything only because he wants to correct the mistake of George Sr administration. The George Sr administration protected Saddam by drinking champaign rather than provide surrender conditions to Swartskopf. Great danger everywhere if George Jr unilaterally attack Iraq. Even Afghanistan could go to hell if we unilaterally attack Iraq. |
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01-29-2003, 09:52 AM | #63 |
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In a fit of nostalgia, I looked back to see what <a href="http://archive.salon.com/comics/tomo/1998/03/09tomo.html/">Blinky, the Very Nice Dog</a> had to say about Iraq in March 1998.
The more things change... |
02-05-2003, 07:06 PM | #64 |
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Sent to me and I found it amusing...
URGENT ASSISTANCE - FROM USA
IMMEDIATE ATTENTION NEEDED : HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL FROM: GEORGE WALKER BUSH 202.456.1414 / 202.456.1111 FAX: 202.456.2461 DEAR SIR / MADAM, I AM GEORGE WALKER BUSH, SON OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH, AND CURRENTLY SERVING AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THIS LETTER MIGHT SURPRISE YOU BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT MET NEITHER IN PERSON NOR BY CORRESPONDENCE. I CAME TO KNOW OF YOU IN MY SEARCH FOR A RELIABLE AND REPUTABLE PERSON TO HANDLE A VERY CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS TRANSACTION, WHICH INVOLVES THE TRANSFER OF A HUGE SUM OF MONEY TO AN ACCOUNT REQUIRING MAXIMUM CONFIDENCE. I AM WRITING YOU IN ABSOLUTE CONFIDENCE PRIMARILY TO SEEK YOUR ASSISTANCE IN ACQUIRING OIL FUNDS THAT ARE PRESENTLY TRAPPED IN THE REPUBLIC OF IRAQ. MY PARTNERS AND I SOLICIT YOUR ASSISTANCE IN COMPLETING A TRANSACTION BEGUN BY MY FATHER, WHO HAS LONG BEEN ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN THE EXTRACTION OF PETROLEUM IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND BRAVELY SERVED HIS COUNTRY AS DIRECTOR OF THE UNITED STATES CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY. IN THE DECADE OF THE NINETEEN-EIGHTIES, MY FATHER, THEN VICE-PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, SOUGHT TO WORK WITH THE GOOD OFFICES OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF IRAQ TO REGAIN LOST OIL REVENUE SOURCES IN THE NEIGHBORING ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN. THIS UNSUCCESSFUL VENTURE WAS SOON FOLLOWED BY A FALLING-OUT WITH HIS IRAQI PARTNER, WHO SOUGHT TO ACQUIRE ADDITIONAL OIL REVENUE SOURCES IN THE NEIGHBORING EMIRATE OF KUWAIT, A WHOLLY-OWNED U.S.-BRITISH SUBSIDIARY. MY FATHER RE-SECURED THE PETROLEUM ASSETS OF KUWAIT IN 1991 AT A COST OF SIXTY-ONE BILLION U.S. DOLLARS ($61,000,000,000). OUT OF THAT COST, THIRTY-SIX BILLION DOLLARS ($36,000,000,000) WERE SUPPLIED BY HIS PARTNERS IN THE KINGDOM OF SAUDI ARABIA AND OTHER PERSIAN GULF MONARCHIES, AND SIXTEEN BILLION DOLLARS ($16,000,000,000) BY GERMAN AND JAPANESE PARTNERS. BUT MY FATHER'S FORMER IRAQI BUSINESS PARTNER REMAINED IN CONTROL OF THE REPUBLIC OF IRAQ AND ITS PETROLEUM RESERVES. MY FAMILY IS CALLING FOR YOUR URGENT ASSISTANCE IN FUNDING THE REMOVAL OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF IRAQ AND ACQUIRING THE PETROLEUM ASSETS OF HIS COUNTRY, AS COMPENSATION FOR THE COSTS OF REMOVING HIM FROM POWER. UNFORTUNATELY, OUR PARTNERS FROM 1991 ARE NOT WILLING TO SHOULDER THE BURDEN OF THIS NEW VENTURE, WHICH IN ITS UPCOMING PHASE MAY COST THE SUM OF 100 BILLION TO 200 BILLION DOLLARS ($100,000,000,000 - $200,000,000,000), BOTH IN THE INITIAL ACQUISITION AND IN LONG-TERM MANAGEMENT. WITHOUT THE FUNDS FROM OUR 1991 PARTNERS, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THE OIL REVENUE TRAPPED WITHIN IRAQ. THAT IS WHY MY FAMILY AND OUR COLLEAGUES ARE URGENTLY SEEKING YOUR GRACIOUS ASSISTANCE. OUR DISTINGUISHED COLLEAGUES IN THIS BUSINESS TRANSACTION INCLUDE THE SITTING VICE-PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, RICHARD CHENEY, WHO IS AN ORIGINAL PARTNER IN THE IRAQ VENTURE AND FORMER HEAD OF THE HALLIBURTON OIL COMPANY, AND CONDOLEEZA RICE, WHOSE PROFESSIONAL DEDICATION TO THE VENTURE WAS DEMONSTRATED IN THE NAMING OF A CHEVRON OIL TANKER AFTER HER. I WOULD BESEECH YOU TO TRANSFER A SUM EQUALING TEN TO TWENTY-FIVE PERCENT (10-25 %) OF YOUR YEARLY INCOME TO OUR ACCOUNT TO AID IN THIS IMPORTANT VENTURE. THE INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WILL FUNCTION AS OUR TRUSTED INTERMEDIARY. I PROPOSE THAT YOU MAKE THIS TRANSFER BEFORE THE FIFTEENTH (15TH) OF THE MONTH OF APRIL. I KNOW THAT A TRANSACTION OF THIS MAGNITUDE WOULD MAKE ANYONE APPREHENSIVE AND WORRIED. BUT I AM ASSURING YOU THAT ALL WILL BE WELL AT THE END OF THE DAY. A BOLD STEP TAKEN SHALL NOT BE REGRETTED, I ASSURE YOU. PLEASE DO BE INFORMED THAT THIS BUSINESS TRANSACTION IS 100% LEGAL. IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO CO-OPERATE IN THIS TRANSACTION, PLEASE CONTACT OUR INTERMEDIARY REPRESENTATIVES TO FURTHER DISCUSS THE MATTER. I PRAY THAT YOU UNDERSTAND OUR PLIGHT. MY FAMILY AND OUR COLLEAGUES WILL BE FOREVER GRATEFUL. PLEASE REPLY IN STRICT CONFIDENCE TO THE CONTACT NUMBERS BELOW. SINCERELY WITH WARM REGARDS, GEORGE WALKER BUSH Switchboard: 202.456.1414 Comments: 202.456.1111 Fax: 202.456.2461 Email: president@whitehouse.gov |
02-05-2003, 07:55 PM | #65 |
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That is perfect!
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02-07-2003, 09:08 PM | #66 |
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I can't resist!
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03-03-2003, 03:33 PM | #67 | |
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I can't resist!
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