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Old 04-21-2008, 09:57 AM   #1
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Did you see the movie MONSTER?

with Cherlize Theron; about Aileen Wurnous?

Sometimes I can relate to Aileen Wurnous. does that make me bad?
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Old 04-21-2008, 10:09 AM   #2
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Yes, and yes if the part you relate to is killing people.
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Old 04-21-2008, 10:11 AM   #3
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Yes and No....That doesn't make you bad.

Now sometimes I relate to Angelina Jolie in "Girl Interrupted". That means I'm just plain evil and I know it. And here's the kicker: and I don't even care....Sometimes it's ok to have an inner monster. The health professionals say if you don't embrace that part of yourself every once in awhile it will sublimate and become something even less healthy.

Dr. Cicero will be here all week..
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Old 04-21-2008, 10:13 AM   #4
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I'm Winona Ryder to your Angelina Jolie.

My inner monster has put me in harm's way, once again.

"Eat in chicken"

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Old 04-21-2008, 11:34 AM   #5
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I cried when Medusa lost the diamond in The Rescuers.
That makes me a cartoon villain, not a monster.
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:39 AM   #6
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I know Aileen was bad, bad, bad and a psychopath...I don't want to kill anyone (well, maybe in my head I shoot people who drive like asshats in traffic but that's an acceptable thing now-days) but sometimes I feel like I try and try and try and some bitch is always going, "but, you HAVE to go back to being a prostitute! How else will we live? You PROMISED me a house on the beach..." you know, the Christina Ricci character who EGGED Aileen on, even when she was trying desperately to go straight (which was really sad).

anyway---glad to see I'm not the only one.
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:40 AM   #7
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Yes and No....That doesn't make you bad.

Now sometimes I relate to Angelina Jolie in "Girl Interrupted". That means I'm just plain evil and I know it. And here's the kicker: and I don't even care....Sometimes it's ok to have an inner monster. The health professionals say if you don't embrace that part of yourself every once in awhile it will sublimate and become something even less healthy.

Dr. Cicero will be here all week..

nicely put.
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Old 04-21-2008, 12:04 PM   #8
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Man, that was great movie. Did Cherlize win any awards.... she totally nailed it.
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:00 PM   #9
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yeah, Oscar, best actress. Was awesome performance.
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Old 04-22-2008, 01:24 PM   #10
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I know Aileen was bad, bad, bad and a psychopath...I don't want to kill anyone (well, maybe in my head I shoot people who drive like asshats in traffic but that's an acceptable thing now-days) but sometimes I feel like I try and try and try and some bitch is always going, "but, you HAVE to go back to being a prostitute! How else will we live? You PROMISED me a house on the beach..." you know, the Christina Ricci character who EGGED Aileen on, even when she was trying desperately to go straight (which was really sad).

anyway---glad to see I'm not the only one.

I couldn't tell if you were channeling charlize or telling about it. No I didn't see the demented psycho movie because I am truly sensitive but 'girl interrupted' was tame enough.

We all have our inner dragons tho.
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Old 04-22-2008, 01:35 PM   #11
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I don't know WHAT I was doing. Just more post-CA blah blah blah I suppose.
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Old 04-22-2008, 01:58 PM   #12
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I was think'in you were just sensitive too


So Christina Ricci character EGGED Aileen ?

wow, it almost makes me want to sympathize a bit. That part intriques me. damn..
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Old 04-22-2008, 02:17 PM   #13
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I was think'in you were just sensitive too


So Christina Ricci character EGGED Aileen ?

wow, it almost makes me want to sympathize a bit. That part intriques me. damn..
It is a powerful movie; I felt the Ricci character egged Aileen on, definitely. Anyone else who saw the movie feel that way?

It is a pretty brutal portrayal of human depravity, sky. Not everyone is really up for that. I've been told not to study certain authors (by professors, no less) because of my personality and the conflict it might create if i did. weird, huh?
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Old 04-22-2008, 03:05 PM   #14
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I thought it was a powerful movie, too. Despite my brother saying the way for a beautiful actress to win an Oscar is to ugly her up, Charlize deserved that Oscar in ways I'm not always sure the winners do.

I saw Ricci's character as egging her. The needy younger person in the relationship; the older person trying to be the strong one, the provider, and getting into situations in order to provide for the needy one.

I think it's rather unforgiveable for a professor to advise you not to read certain things due to your personality. What, I can't read Poe any more because I'm about halfway there myself? Bah. That's the biggest pile of crap I've heard in a long time.

An unexamined life is not worth living. Shielding yourself from the difficult things is no way to live.

However, if you're prone to reading Danielle Steele while eating a gallon of ice cream, drinking a pint of vodka, and crying out in the middle of the street, well...I think you could safely say that's not good for anyone. But I wouldn't recommend that reading anyway.

Harry Angstrom forever!
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Old 04-22-2008, 03:24 PM   #15
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@shawnee----the professor who threw me out of his class told me NOT to study Plath. TOOO DANGEROUS!!

He's a-scaird a'her!
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