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Old 05-26-2007, 12:40 PM   #1
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You Go Boy, Drop That Pump

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/25/gas....ap/index.html

Fed up station owner shuts off gas pumps
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Old 05-26-2007, 05:57 PM   #2
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Maria McClory, 38, drove 10 miles out of her way to buy a diet soda from Pollack's station after seeing local television coverage of the protest.

"I just wanted to support them and thank them for making a statement," said McClory, who drives about 100 miles a day for work in her sport utility vehicle.
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Schwartz called that [price] "outrageous" and said even he can't fill up his SUV at that price.
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Old 05-26-2007, 09:19 PM   #3
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Schwartz called that "outrageous" and said even he can't fill up his SUV at that price.

"If it keeps going like this, my kids will never be able to afford to drive," said Schwartz, who has an 18-year-old son and 15-year-old daughter.
Poor Mr. Schwartz. He's got the pieces, but can't seem to put them together.
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Old 05-28-2007, 03:35 PM   #4
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It is hard serving people who earn so much more money than you. Poor chap can't afford to fill up his SUV and yet one of his customers can afford to drive 10 miles out of her way just to buy a soda. Must be tough.
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Old 05-28-2007, 04:02 PM   #5
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He's trying to make a point, shame so many are missing it. Or are you willing to pay higher prices just to see suv owners get fucked?

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"Somebody out there is making money at these prices, but not me," said Pollack, 57. "So I just thought: What can I do to help the consumer?"
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Old 05-28-2007, 06:26 PM   #6
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What he's doing (did) won't help in itself. But if he makes an impression on enough people, people that will say fuck this, I'm going to make a conscious effort to buy (use) less gas. Then he's a hero.
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Old 05-28-2007, 06:58 PM   #7
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What's amazing is that the system is geared to his disadvantage. Everyone else in the chain, the government, the credit card companies, etc, works on a percentage. His markup is probably the same 8-12 cents a gallon whether gas is $2 or $4 per gallon. However, if there is such a thing as shrinkage, the loss of gas through evaporation (hopefully not), theft, etc, then those costs will continue to rise. He may end up making the same flat price on a more and more expensive product.

Making a $4 markup on a $20 watch is not too bad. Making a $4 markup on a $400 watch is a reason to walk away.
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Old 05-28-2007, 07:56 PM   #8
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What he's doing (did) won't help in itself. But if he makes an impression on enough people, people that will say fuck this, I'm going to make a conscious effort to buy (use) less gas. Then he's a hero.
Buying less gas means buying less everything - which can be really hard when everything is shipped from china, over-packaged, and designed to break 2 days after the warranty expires. The gas you put in your vehicle is a small part of a huge picture. Buying a prius is a finger in the dyke solution.


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Old 05-28-2007, 07:31 PM   #9
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He's trying to make a point, shame so many are missing it. Or are you willing to pay higher prices just to see suv owners get fucked?
Yes.
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Old 05-28-2007, 08:12 PM   #10
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People who have issues with SUVs crack me up. Ill informed and narrow minded.
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Old 05-28-2007, 08:16 PM   #11
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People who have issues with SUVs crack me up. Ill informed and narrow minded.
We loved our H2's. Great truck. Great tax break as well!
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Old 05-29-2007, 01:51 PM   #12
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People who have issues with SUVs crack me up. Ill informed and narrow minded.
Nonsense. You need to connect the dots. The issue I have is with people who whine about paying a small fraction of the true costs of their vehicle at the pump. Next time you get pissed when some hippie flips you off in traffic, remember that your POS Hummer is a powerful symbol of your support for the Bush agenda. I am being subsidized in blood and taxes as well, but at least I acknowlege it and would prefer not to pass the cost on to someone else.
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Old 05-29-2007, 02:27 PM   #13
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Nonsense. You need to connect the dots. The issue I have is with people who whine about paying a small fraction of the true costs of their vehicle at the pump. Next time you get pissed when some hippie flips you off in traffic, remember that your POS Hummer is a powerful symbol of your support for the Bush agenda. I am being subsidized in blood and taxes as well, but at least I acknowlege it and would prefer not to pass the cost on to someone else.
Pissed? Hardly, I just pity them for being stupid, uninformed and deluded.
Because the manufacturing was already in place for it, the H3 has a smaller carbon footprint, per mile, than any hybrid SUV.
Read that little fact in an article in here.
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Old 05-29-2007, 02:52 PM   #14
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Because the manufacturing was already in place for it, the H3 has a smaller carbon footprint, per mile, than any hybrid SUV.
Read that little fact in an article in here.
That's a weird way to compare them. Manufacturing costs should be amortized over the life of the factory. They don't count just for the first generation of vehicles to come out of the factory. Using that standard, you could just as easily say that the first vehicle out of the plant cost billions and the second was just the cost of materials and labor.
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Old 05-29-2007, 04:54 PM   #15
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That's a weird way to compare them. Manufacturing costs should be amortized over the life of the factory. They don't count just for the first generation of vehicles to come out of the factory. Using that standard, you could just as easily say that the first vehicle out of the plant cost billions and the second was just the cost of materials and labor.
Not exactly, the factory can be amortized over the life of the factory, but the tooling for each specific model is amortized for that model. I think the tooling costs far exceed the factory cost.

When I say tooling, I'm including all the costs to design, refine and test the model prior to production as well as the specific tooling to manufacture it. The factory is just a box to keep the weather off the expensive shit.
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