The right way to stop a bully

[infinite monkey]

Yeah, it's hard to detect when your quotes are snatched and then scattered all out of order and stuff. Somebody must work for Faux News.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Then I imagine you're actually in agreement with most people here. .

The sense that I got from most people posting in this thread is that they celebrate and endorse children being violent. I am not in agreement with those people.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by infinite monkey

Yeah, it's hard to detect when your quotes are snatched and then scattered all out of order and stuff. Somebody must work for Faux News.

It's like classic has never read a post of mine.

[Pico and ME]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

You show an amazing lack of understanding sarcasm.

Its willful, I do believe.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by infinite monkey

Yeah, it's hard to detect when your quotes are snatched and then scattered all out of order and stuff.

I clicked one out of order. Crucifixion worthy.

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

You show an amazing lack of understanding sarcasm.

Yeh its me - Where was the sarcasm? I'm sure that it took you 30 posts to later change your tune. Whatever.

Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Its willful, I do believe.

Shawnee - check
Spexxie - check
Pico & me - check
Only one missing. Not bad for one post in under 2 hours as well.
Go team!

[jimhelm]

I dunno, classic,... It WAS pretty clear that spex was being ironic when he said the big kid should have busted a cap in his ass.

[kerosene]

I don't think people are celebrating violence. I, in particular would be celebrating the bigger kid's confidence to stand up for himself. If he let that kid pick on him long enough, then others would jump on that bandwagon. Sometimes it is even worse when the school administration gets involved. If that were my kid, I would be proud that he didn't let the little snot keep messing with him. He should go out for football.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by classicman

Yeh its me - Where was the sarcasm? I'm sure that it took you 30 posts to later change your tune. Whatever.

I don't want to fight with you, but if you know me at all, you know that I wouldn't say that.

[Pete Zicato]

Originally Posted by classicman

Yeh its me - Where was the sarcasm? I'm sure that it took you 30 posts to later change your tune. Whatever.

I read it as sarcasm as well. While I disagree with Spexx' view on this, he's been consistent.

[classicman]

Obviously everyone else did other than me. Shocked - NOT.
I was reminded of the BB gun you bought your son and surprised at this comment at first, but didn't see where the sarcasm was indicated. Whatever - my bad.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by classicman

Obviously everyone else did other than me. Shocked - NOT.
I was reminded of the BB gun you bought your son and surprised at this comment at first, but didn't see where the sarcasm was indicated. Whatever - my bad.

No worries.

[Spexxvet]

This thread reminded me of some other Cellar discussions.

http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=1...hlight=justice

http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=2...hlight=teacher

[DanaC]

I want to take this back to the comment Sundae made initially, and with which I agreed: it's a question of proportionate or disproportionate force.

Had the bigger lad thrown a punch, chances are we would not be having this conversatiion. If he'd given him a hard shove, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation. Either of those responses, given the disparity in size and strength, would have shocked, possibly hurt, the bully and given a clear message that this kid isn;t for bullying.

He didn't 'hit back'. He picked the other kid up, turned him over and slammed him bodily onto the ground. He basically pulled a WWF move on another kid. Only, in WWF they are landing on sprung surfaces. That is either entirely over the top as a response, or shows a serious misunderstanding of staged -v- actual violence. It also possibly shows a either a lack of awareness of his own strength, or a lack of awareness of the potential for his actions to cause harm.

None of which makes me think the lad should be in trouble for acting the way he did. But it does suggest some important lessons he could do with learning fairly soon.

[Aliantha]

I'm pretty sure he was hoping his actions would cause harm. lol

How can we expect kids not to let things escalate when as adults and world rulers we aren't capable of the same?

I'd also suggest that giving the kid a hard shove or a punch could lead to the same or worse injuries. Either you're against violence as an effective way to end conflict or you're not. No disrespect Dana, but why do you get to decide what the right amount of violence is?

[jimhelm]

I think the bigger kid showed remarkable restraint at the end there. He watched to make sure tiny was finished, and just walked away. He could have dropped an atomic elbow or put a figure 4 leg lock on his ass.....

just sayin'