Translation please

plthijinx · 08-26-2005, 10:08 AM

in surfing around another cellarwannabe site i came across this for someone's sig line:

از جملهٌ رفتگان اين راه دراز

باز آمده كيست تا به ما گويد راز

پس بر سر اين دو راهٌ آز و نياز

تا هيچ نماني كه نميايي باز

the website is irankicks which seems to be dedicated to soccer err um futbol. anyway, wtf does the above mean?

wolf · 08-26-2005, 10:33 AM

"You are an infidel and you should die."

Griff · 08-26-2005, 10:37 AM

We may be 500 years behind the West but at least our futbol team sucks ass.

Queen of the Ryche · 08-26-2005, 10:37 AM

"The Cellar didn't like my 'art' so I am here to recruit all of you into New Utopia."

wolf · 08-26-2005, 10:40 AM

Buzzed beautified him [rft]گ[aan] where sees him [draaz] --
Falcon [EEmdh] courteous [taa] in him what گ[wyd] Raz --
پ[s] land rejoiced where echoes sees him [EEz] and [nyaaz] --
[taa] [hy]چ sleeps me as him [nmyaayy] falcon

A lot of the arabic translation sites went paid given their recent popularity ... this is what you get out of one of the remaining free ones.

08-26-2005, 10:56 AM

Its camel incited that mended گ that where Deraz saw it

A falcon I supply it a tactful Ta by it what is گ and Raz's hand

پ س a benevolence pleased where dos saw it he incited and Niaz

Ta is چ that Kh Nmiae developed a falcon

At least the site Wolf found seems to make more sense than the one I did.

Why don't you ask the person what it means?

Griff · 08-26-2005, 11:27 AM

It appears that a falcon is a common literary tool among Sufis but I can't wring a poem out of this one.

BigV · 08-26-2005, 12:52 PM

I haven't gotten a translation yet, but I'm working on it. It is not Arabic, perhaps Farsi or Urdu.

I did find it fascinating that the text flows from right to left. As an experiment, place your cursor in the middle of a line of english text, press and hold the left button down as though you're going to select some text, then drag the mouse cursor downward one line. You'll see the highlight jump to the end of the line, which for English would be to the far right of the line.

Now, release the mouse button and try the exercise again using some of the unknown script-looking text. Mouse cursor in the middle of the line, press and hold the left button, and drag it downward one line. Where does the highlight jump to? To the far LEFT hand side of the line. Just as it should since the flow of the text for this language is right to left, top to bottom. [/nerd]

wolf · 08-26-2005, 01:32 PM

Yeah, that whole backwards text thing made me crazy too as I was trying to cut and paste the quote into the translator.

I'm assuming that it's something from Rumi.

wolf · 08-26-2005, 01:40 PM

A perfect falcon, for no reason,
has landed on your shoulder,
and become yours.

Rumi

or

O goodly spirit! O pure essence!
How long must you wander and hustle?
You are the king's falcon; hence,
Fly back to the king's whistle.

Rumi

I doubt that this has anything at all to do with the poem in question.

Although I have kind of gathered that the falcon is often a metaphor for Islam in Sufic poetry. I don't know for sure, this is an assumption garnered from a relatively brief google search and scan of a dozen or so poetry pages.

Hobbs · 08-26-2005, 02:08 PM

It's not "All your bases are belonging to us?" Well...than I got nothing.

Happy Monkey · 08-26-2005, 02:23 PM

if I looking for falcon
him name is flykin brown falcon

P.S. I'll find my falcon.

Elspode · 08-26-2005, 02:34 PM

I'm pretty sure it actually translates into something like, "Jeez...we're sitting on top of a sea of oil, and even *we* are smart enough to be going nuclear in a big way. Stupid Infidels."

Griff · 08-26-2005, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

if I looking for falcon
him name is flykin brown falcon

P.S. I'll find my falcon.

him make me cry

xoxoxoBruce · 08-26-2005, 10:38 PM

Quote:

O goodly spirit! O pure essence!
How long must you wander and hustle?
You are the king's falcon; hence,
Fly back to the king's whistle.

Sounds like somebody is being called the Kings bitch.

08-26-2005, 10:08 AM	#1
plthijinx Master Dwellar Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,197	Translation please in surfing around another cellarwannabe site i came across this for someone's sig line: از جملهٌ رفتگان اين راه دراز باز آمده كيست تا به ما گويد راز پس بر سر اين دو راهٌ آز و نياز تا هيچ نماني كه نميايي باز the website is irankicks which seems to be dedicated to soccer err um futbol. anyway, wtf does the above mean? __________________ For your dreams to come true, you must first have a dream.

08-26-2005, 10:33 AM	#2
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	"You are an infidel and you should die." __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

08-26-2005, 10:37 AM	#3
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	We may be 500 years behind the West but at least our futbol team sucks ass. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

08-26-2005, 10:37 AM	#4
Queen of the Ryche is fleeing the scene Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Beautiful CO Posts: 1,510	"The Cellar didn't like my 'art' so I am here to recruit all of you into New Utopia." __________________ Once, in an interview, Chuck Norris admitted that he was not the most awesome thing ever. He declined to elaborate; but I believe we all know that he was referring to the existence of chocolate covered bacon. I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six.

08-26-2005, 10:40 AM	#5
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Buzzed beautified him [rft]گ[aan] where sees him [draaz] -- Falcon [EEmdh] courteous [taa] in him what گ[wyd] Raz -- پ[s] land rejoiced where echoes sees him [EEz] and [nyaaz] -- [taa] [hy]چ sleeps me as him [nmyaayy] falcon A lot of the arabic translation sites went paid given their recent popularity ... this is what you get out of one of the remaining free ones. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

08-26-2005, 10:56 AM	#6
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	Its camel incited that mended گ that where Deraz saw it A falcon I supply it a tactful Ta by it what is گ and Raz's hand پ س a benevolence pleased where dos saw it he incited and Niaz Ta is چ that Kh Nmiae developed a falcon At least the site Wolf found seems to make more sense than the one I did. Why don't you ask the person what it means?

08-26-2005, 11:27 AM	#7
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	It appears that a falcon is a common literary tool among Sufis but I can't wring a poem out of this one. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

08-26-2005, 12:52 PM	#8
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	I haven't gotten a translation yet, but I'm working on it. It is not Arabic, perhaps Farsi or Urdu. I did find it fascinating that the text flows from right to left. As an experiment, place your cursor in the middle of a line of english text, press and hold the left button down as though you're going to select some text, then drag the mouse cursor downward one line. You'll see the highlight jump to the end of the line, which for English would be to the far right of the line. Now, release the mouse button and try the exercise again using some of the unknown script-looking text. Mouse cursor in the middle of the line, press and hold the left button, and drag it downward one line. Where does the highlight jump to? To the far LEFT hand side of the line. Just as it should since the flow of the text for this language is right to left, top to bottom. [/nerd] __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

08-26-2005, 01:32 PM	#9
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Yeah, that whole backwards text thing made me crazy too as I was trying to cut and paste the quote into the translator. I'm assuming that it's something from Rumi. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

08-26-2005, 01:40 PM	#10
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	A perfect falcon, for no reason, has landed on your shoulder, and become yours. Rumi or O goodly spirit! O pure essence! How long must you wander and hustle? You are the king's falcon; hence, Fly back to the king's whistle. Rumi I doubt that this has anything at all to do with the poem in question. Although I have kind of gathered that the falcon is often a metaphor for Islam in Sufic poetry. I don't know for sure, this is an assumption garnered from a relatively brief google search and scan of a dozen or so poetry pages. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

08-26-2005, 02:08 PM	#11
Hobbs Professor for the school of ass-clownery Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Surprise! Posts: 404	It's not "All your bases are belonging to us?" Well...than I got nothing. __________________ That's it! Send in the chimps!

08-26-2005, 02:23 PM	#12
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	if I looking for falcon him name is flykin brown falcon P.S. I'll find my falcon. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

08-26-2005, 02:34 PM	#13
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	I'm pretty sure it actually translates into something like, "Jeez...we're sitting on top of a sea of oil, and even we are smart enough to be going nuclear in a big way. Stupid Infidels." __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

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