Paris attacks - Page 2

sexobon · 11-14-2015, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by monster

... Please stop being an asshole and blaming the victim. If you cannot experience any empathy for France, then maybe for those of us here who do.

No one has blamed the victim: however, the French own responsibility for failures in their great experiment. They accept that and take it in stride as part of their way of living. Funny that you can't while I can being that there's less culture shock between Britain and France than Britain and the United States.

Don't even flap your crap trap about empathy for France. Masses are being killed around the world all the time and they're not making it to be empathized or eulogized in threads here. This is about you, your remote connection to events, and your overreaction. The French are used to situations like this and can talk about it frankly while many Brits can't. That's where one similarity ends. Can't blame them for being language snobs with such a disparity just across the Channel.

Your request is not favorably considered.

infinite monkey · 11-14-2015, 10:22 AM

I think many of us feel a great deal of empathy for France right now.

What I don't feel is Geraldo type pain (faux news on in the break room last nigbt) nor do I want to act like it's in my backyard just as I wouldn't feign such if it happened in, say, Pennsylvania or something. Yes, I get it, but please don't tell me all of a sudden it is your next door neighbor.

My empathy is for them.

What I said.

Much love and warm thoughts to the victims.

Eta: I took two years of french in hs and two quarters in college. We're not all philistines over here.

classicman · 11-14-2015, 11:00 AM

I was wondering silently how someone professed to know the victims agreed with the immigration plans of their country.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-14-2015, 09:00 PM

Net chatter.

infinite monkey · 11-14-2015, 09:03 PM

aww...whut?

Aliantha · 11-14-2015, 11:23 PM

I think the world should just let Putin take care of Isis. He's bloodthirsty enough, and everyone will be able to have a clear conscience because it's just the bad guys killing the even badder guys.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-14-2015, 11:52 PM

Uh, Putin is on their side.

Aliantha · 11-15-2015, 12:05 AM

I guess that depends which media you listen to.

Sundae · 11-15-2015, 06:01 AM

I don't think you can help how you feel.
I roll my eyes at people who sob when bands break up, who leave shabby garage forecourt flowers on lamp-posts when schoolfriends die (but don't take them away when they rot), who leave toys and cards about angels when little children are killed - which would be better donated to families who are in poverty.

I think they are maudlin and possibly have a low IQ.

But I think that feeling shock and outrage at mass murder in a place you have personally been, and sadness that humanity is not as humane as we like to picture it, is reasonable.

This is not directed at you, Infi, or Sexobon, or anyone else.
And I'm not weeping and wailing all over social media.
The French will roll with this. Their problems with religion/ tolerance/ racism have existed for years. Echoes of a colonial past (ditto UK)

Just hope when the next attack comes it isn't us again.
100% selfish. 100% how I feel.

infinite monkey · 11-15-2015, 11:27 AM

You're right. I wasn't thinking when I wrote that.

I think it's my bad response to all the bad things that happen. I am not dealing well with life.

Sorry.

tw · 11-15-2015, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Uh, Putin is on their side.

When dice have so many sides, it is called a sphere. Which side of that sphere on you on?

tw · 11-15-2015, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman

I was wondering silently how someone professed to know the victims agreed with the immigration plans of their country.

I was silently wondering how immigration has anything to do with extremism. Since immigration creates stronger and more prosperous nations. And extremism does not.

Clodfobble · 11-15-2015, 07:31 PM

Brief NSFW language. Also, yes I know I'm a sociopath please don't be mad at me it's just how I feel.

sexobon · 11-15-2015, 08:59 PM

If we ever get reincarnated at about the same time I'm going to look you up.

Clodfobble · 11-15-2015, 10:46 PM

At Mr. Clod's company, there was a COMPANY-WIDE email thread of people tagging on their thoughts and prayers and replying-all every time.

And then a guy replied in French. And then more did, to prove they knew some high school French too. And even now, this email chain is still going on in his and everyone else's inbox, in a language 99% of them can't understand.

11-14-2015, 10:22 AM	#17
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	I think many of us feel a great deal of empathy for France right now. What I don't feel is Geraldo type pain (faux news on in the break room last nigbt) nor do I want to act like it's in my backyard just as I wouldn't feign such if it happened in, say, Pennsylvania or something. Yes, I get it, but please don't tell me all of a sudden it is your next door neighbor. My empathy is for them. What I said. Much love and warm thoughts to the victims. Eta: I took two years of french in hs and two quarters in college. We're not all philistines over here. Last edited by infinite monkey; 11-14-2015 at 10:27 AM.

11-14-2015, 11:00 AM	#18
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I was wondering silently how someone professed to know the victims agreed with the immigration plans of their country. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

11-14-2015, 09:00 PM	#19
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11-14-2015, 11:23 PM	#21
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I think the world should just let Putin take care of Isis. He's bloodthirsty enough, and everyone will be able to have a clear conscience because it's just the bad guys killing the even badder guys. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-14-2015, 11:52 PM	#22
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Uh, Putin is on their side. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-14-2015, 09:03 PM	#20
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	aww...whut?

11-15-2015, 12:05 AM	#23
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I guess that depends which media you listen to. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-15-2015, 06:01 AM	#24
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	I don't think you can help how you feel. I roll my eyes at people who sob when bands break up, who leave shabby garage forecourt flowers on lamp-posts when schoolfriends die (but don't take them away when they rot), who leave toys and cards about angels when little children are killed - which would be better donated to families who are in poverty. I think they are maudlin and possibly have a low IQ. But I think that feeling shock and outrage at mass murder in a place you have personally been, and sadness that humanity is not as humane as we like to picture it, is reasonable. This is not directed at you, Infi, or Sexobon, or anyone else. And I'm not weeping and wailing all over social media. The French will roll with this. Their problems with religion/ tolerance/ racism have existed for years. Echoes of a colonial past (ditto UK) Just hope when the next attack comes it isn't us again. 100% selfish. 100% how I feel. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

11-15-2015, 11:27 AM	#25
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	You're right. I wasn't thinking when I wrote that. I think it's my bad response to all the bad things that happen. I am not dealing well with life. Sorry.

11-15-2015, 07:31 PM	#28
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11-15-2015, 08:59 PM	#29
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	If we ever get reincarnated at about the same time I'm going to look you up.

11-15-2015, 10:46 PM	#30
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	At Mr. Clod's company, there was a COMPANY-WIDE email thread of people tagging on their thoughts and prayers and replying-all every time. And then a guy replied in French. And then more did, to prove they knew some high school French too. And even now, this email chain is still going on in his and everyone else's inbox, in a language 99% of them can't understand. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

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