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View Poll Results: If the election were held now, who would you vote for? | |||
Bush (R) | 8 | 25.00% | |
Kerry (D) | 18 | 56.25% | |
Other (?) | 6 | 18.75% | |
Voters: 32. You may not vote on this poll |
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04-15-2004, 04:48 PM | #46 | ||
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04-15-2004, 05:18 PM | #47 |
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Your portion of the deficit this year is larger than the tax break you got. Difference is that your kids will be paying that. Feel like explaining that to them?
I agree, deficits have to be paid for by someone eventually. But I feel pretty certain this particular deficit won't be around 20 years from now for my kids to pay for. Some other deficit probably will be, but there will also be years of balanced budgets in there too. Hell, Kerry himself says he can cut the thing in half in just four years. If it's that easily done, then more than likely it will be--it's the pendulum nature of our government system. Even if you don't believe Bush will do it, at the very least someone else will get a shot another four years from now. The possibility that money has been spent poorly by this administration is a separate idea from whether the tax cuts were a bad idea in this particular economy, and the former does not inherently mean the latter. If I am asked to explain to my children someday that, yes, I wanted to keep the tax cuts I got because it directly enabled them to live in a better school district during a time when we could not have afforded it otherwise, then I think I can do so with confidence. The fact that we as a country ALSO spent a lot of money on a war at the same time is another issue entirely. If, as Happy Monkey showed, Kerry really does intend to keep the middle-class tax cuts, and follows through on that promise (assuming he has the opportunity), then great. As it is I don't want to vote for either of them. |
04-15-2004, 06:53 PM | #48 | ||
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04-16-2004, 09:48 AM | #49 |
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So, rich, you're saying Kerry is wrong to promise to keep the middle class tax cuts in place?
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04-18-2004, 03:51 PM | #50 |
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Kerry's appearance on "Meet The Press"
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4772030/ I saw the show this morning. I had no complaints whatsoever. Kerry, 2004!
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05-18-2004, 02:31 PM | #51 |
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McSweeney's Daily Reason to Dispatch Bush.
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05-18-2004, 06:47 PM | #52 | ||
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If you don't see a similarity in America today, you're not looking. A common misconception is that the death camps were built overnight. That is not true. It first started with new laws. One of the criticism's of the new Homeland Security department was that Homeland sounded a lot like Fatherland. And up until the Abu Graib pictures were releases, how many Americans were asking their Congressman about what was going on in Guantanamo Bay and the military prisons? All our goverment had to say was 'national security', and we looked the other way. How many times have we heard the word 'treason' trotted out by neocons? How much of a step will it be for the Justice Department to begin taking those accusations seriously? Don't think that because we have McDonalds and Wal-Marts that something like that can't happen here. That was the mistake everyone made in the 1930's. "Germans are rational." "Germans are civilized." "Germany is a free republic." "This will all get better soon".
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05-18-2004, 06:49 PM | #53 | |
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05-19-2004, 01:24 PM | #54 | |
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SAME HERE....
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Kerry was fourth in my list, Clark, Dean & Edwards were ahead of him to me......but he can STILL redeem himself by choosing one of the three as his running mate.... I feel a vote for Kerry isn't a vote for the Democrats, (since I'm an independent I try to stay neutral) but by voting for him, it hurts junior more than voting 3rd party, which I did in 2000 & 96....although in 92 I was ALL for slick willie.... Later |
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05-22-2004, 02:36 AM | #55 | |
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This is one of the reasons I'll be voting for Bush. The UN is not my government (yet). |
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05-22-2004, 03:25 PM | #56 |
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God endorses Bush, with a little hesitation.
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05-22-2004, 03:42 PM | #57 |
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He endorses you without any reservation ... not returning the favor? Or are you nervous about mixing religion and politics too?
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05-22-2004, 05:10 PM | #58 | |
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Have some Kool-Aid... |
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05-22-2004, 05:50 PM | #59 |
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Lemon-Lime!! Thanks Syc! That's my favorite! ( takes a big gulp )
That's strange. It tastes a little like almonds. |
05-23-2004, 01:53 AM | #60 | |
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That's a very funny title you have there too Wolf. |
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