I, Robot - Page 3

Happy Monkey · 07-22-2004, 06:07 PM

Any recent Star Trek that was decent had to claw and scratch its way past Brannon Braga and Rick Berman. Unfortunately, not enough of it made it through to keep me interested.

And I used to be a massive Trekkie.

DanaC · 07-22-2004, 06:08 PM

For me the best Star Trek series was DS9....Next gen was the one I got into first.....but I do have a soft spot for the Original, it had heart if no budget

Happy Monkey · 07-22-2004, 06:21 PM

I first got into the original series when it was on reruns in the kiddie corner of a car dealership. I was excited when Next Gen came out, but got discouraged by a few stupid episodes. A year or two later, some friends convinced me it had caught its stride, and I got into it again. DS9 was great (primarily, I believe, due to the competition with Babylon 5), so I was excited to see Voyager.

It didn't work out. When Enterprise started, I was game, but it again didn't hold my interest, and the occasional summaries I'd see on the net didn't tempt me.

But the new direction that Manny Coto is looking at is promising. Plus:

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Manny Coto, a writer (Showtime's Odyssey 5) who joined the series in the third season and was responsible for many of the Xindi storylines, has been promoted to "show runner," in charge of the day-to-day operations and writing, while previous show runner Brannon Braga steps back into a more executive role.

DanaC · 07-22-2004, 06:27 PM

Next Gen did have enormous quantities of cheese .....but there were some kickass episodes also which I always felt made it worth a go...Voyager was a mixed bag also, liked individual episodes and liked particular characters but overall the show didnt qute work...Enterprise ...yeah cheesy but I like some aspects of it. I wasnt particularly impressed when the last series ended with a Lizard alien in an SS uniform *rolls eyes*

Undertoad · 07-22-2004, 07:04 PM

HM knows why after I found the first smiley with the white on the left, I had to find the other one with reverse coloring... good work man

Happy Monkey · 07-22-2004, 07:17 PM

I almost used one of the generic aliens... To think of the opportunity I almost missed.

crossfire · 07-22-2004, 07:19 PM

Yeah, now i'm completely out of this thread. hehe

lookout123 · 07-22-2004, 08:04 PM

i grew up on the original as my parents were big trekkies. next generation i enjoyed to a degree in late night reruns - but it was very soft to me. it left me feeling like i had just left a big group hug. DS9 and voyager seemed alright but i didn't pay much attention. when enterprise came around i was pretty optimistic. i haven't seen very many episodes but what i have seen seemed a little more gritty than the more recent star trek products. more conflict i guess. hopefully this new direction works well. i hate to imagine a world without some star trek on the airwaves.

Troubleshooter · 07-22-2004, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Harrison Ford would have a certain nostalgic appeal...

Deckard a la Bladerunner is almost perfect as the character that they meant to portray.

wolf · 07-24-2004, 10:39 PM

So, I went to see I, Robot tonight. It's a fun action film, but, well ... it's not Asimov, but I knew that going in.

There were some very cool, very neat things to see ... and the usual number of plot weakenesses. Overall, though, it was a fun evening.

There were quite a few visual elements that I thought were nicely done ... the future Chicago, for example, that they managed to tuck the John Hancock Building and the Sears Tower into, but not as central elements ...

I'll go as much as 3.5/5.

I just wished they'd do it right. Didn't Harlan Ellison do a script, or at least a treatment for I, Robot at one point?

Did anyone else wonder about the origin of the abstract paintings in the doc's house? Was that a brief nod to Ike, or am I hoping for too much in a relatively pedestrian film?

crossfire · 07-25-2004, 05:43 PM

As far as I could tell, the paintings in the house weren't really the main idea of the story. Also, even though the idea is an Asimov idea, but was not exactly parallel to Asimov's story, doesn't mean that the movie couldn't be cool. It was a really good movie.

wolf · 07-26-2004, 01:09 AM

No the paintings weren't really part of the story, but I did think it was kind of a subtle nod to Asimov, because of one of the other stories in the I, Robot collection.

crossfire · 07-26-2004, 12:22 PM

ah, ok, because I've never read Asimov. So, i don't know anything about the pictures.

07-22-2004, 06:07 PM	#31
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Any recent Star Trek that was decent had to claw and scratch its way past Brannon Braga and Rick Berman. Unfortunately, not enough of it made it through to keep me interested. And I used to be a massive Trekkie. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

07-22-2004, 07:17 PM	#36
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	I almost used one of the generic aliens... To think of the opportunity I almost missed. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

07-22-2004, 08:04 PM	#38
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	i grew up on the original as my parents were big trekkies. next generation i enjoyed to a degree in late night reruns - but it was very soft to me. it left me feeling like i had just left a big group hug. DS9 and voyager seemed alright but i didn't pay much attention. when enterprise came around i was pretty optimistic. i haven't seen very many episodes but what i have seen seemed a little more gritty than the more recent star trek products. more conflict i guess. hopefully this new direction works well. i hate to imagine a world without some star trek on the airwaves. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

07-24-2004, 10:39 PM	#40
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	So, I went to see I, Robot tonight. It's a fun action film, but, well ... it's not Asimov, but I knew that going in. There were some very cool, very neat things to see ... and the usual number of plot weakenesses. Overall, though, it was a fun evening. There were quite a few visual elements that I thought were nicely done ... the future Chicago, for example, that they managed to tuck the John Hancock Building and the Sears Tower into, but not as central elements ... I'll go as much as 3.5/5. I just wished they'd do it right. Didn't Harlan Ellison do a script, or at least a treatment for I, Robot at one point? Did anyone else wonder about the origin of the abstract paintings in the doc's house? Was that a brief nod to Ike, or am I hoping for too much in a relatively pedestrian film? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

07-26-2004, 01:09 AM	#42
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	No the paintings weren't really part of the story, but I did think it was kind of a subtle nod to Asimov, because of one of the other stories in the I, Robot collection. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

07-22-2004, 06:08 PM	#32
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	For me the best Star Trek series was DS9....Next gen was the one I got into first.....but I do have a soft spot for the Original, it had heart if no budget

07-22-2004, 06:27 PM	#34
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Next Gen did have enormous quantities of cheese .....but there were some kickass episodes also which I always felt made it worth a go...Voyager was a mixed bag also, liked individual episodes and liked particular characters but overall the show didnt qute work...Enterprise ...yeah cheesy but I like some aspects of it. I wasnt particularly impressed when the last series ended with a Lizard alien in an SS uniform rolls eyes

07-22-2004, 07:04 PM	#35
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	HM knows why after I found the first smiley with the white on the left, I had to find the other one with reverse coloring... good work man

07-22-2004, 07:19 PM	#37
crossfire The White Rapper Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 233	Yeah, now i'm completely out of this thread. hehe

07-25-2004, 05:43 PM	#41
crossfire The White Rapper Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 233	As far as I could tell, the paintings in the house weren't really the main idea of the story. Also, even though the idea is an Asimov idea, but was not exactly parallel to Asimov's story, doesn't mean that the movie couldn't be cool. It was a really good movie.

07-26-2004, 12:22 PM	#43
crossfire The White Rapper Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 233	ah, ok, because I've never read Asimov. So, i don't know anything about the pictures.

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