Partisan politics

[lookout123]

well, this flaja character is certainly the most interesting person to pop up in quite a while.

[classicman]

flaja & radar - seem to have a lot in common. I'm surprised he hasn't chimed in here at all.

[flaja]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Holy shit. Well that's an interesting take on it, flaja, it really is.

Of course, in your post you said she gave up that control when she got pregnant, not when she had sex. Do you believe women lose the right to control their bodies when they have sex?

You do know how sex works, don’t you? No one can get pregnant without sex. Even with birth control that the woman takes care of herself, she runs the risk that the method used will fail or will have long-term health consequences for her even if it is successful in preventing pregnancy.

[Aliantha]

I can't believe anyone could possibly think that a woman is giving up control of her body just because she chooses to have sex with someone. The woman makes that choice knowing the possible consequences. That's not losing control or giving up control. That's making an informed decision.

I can't believe anyone could have such antiquated ideas and still expect to be taken seriously. lol

[classicman]

What does that have to do with relinquishing control of her body?

[flaja]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

I can't believe anyone could possibly think that a woman is giving up control of her body just because she chooses to have sex with someone. The woman makes that choice knowing the possible consequences. That's not losing control or giving up control. That's making an informed decision.

I can't believe anyone could have such antiquated ideas and still expect to be taken seriously. lol

Putting your body at risk of disease, injury or pregnancy isn’t yielding control over it to the actions of someone else?

[flaja]

Originally Posted by classicman

What does that have to do with relinquishing control of her body?

Having sex means that a woman is giving someone else the opportunity to infect, injure or impregnate her body. By granting such an opportunity the woman is giving up control over her body.

[Aliantha]

You're not putting yourself at risk if you've made an informed decision. Having made the decision means you've considered the risks and decided that the risks are worth the reward.

Like when I go home tonight and have sex with my husband. He wont be controlling my body. I will. He'll just be pleasuring it.

[classicman]

Thanks Ali - I thought it was just me there for a bit.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by flaja

Having sex means that a woman is giving someone else the opportunity to infect, injure or impregnate her body. By granting such an opportunity the woman is giving up control over her body.

Walking down the street is giving someone else the opportunity to infect or injure your body.

[Aliantha]

So if I infect you with a cold, I'm taking control of your body...by flaja's reasoning of course.

[Aliantha]

Originally Posted by flaja

How do you know that what I say is not true? How many people who are liberal on other issues are against abortion?

Originally Posted by Aliantha

How many people who are conservative on other issues are for abortion?

Originally Posted by flaja

Define conservative.

Do you get it now?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by flaja

My mother has Medicare because she is disabled and gets SSI (lupus). She has no choice but to get treatment at the local government hospital. That hospital won’t treat anybody that won’t sign a waiver whereby they specifically give up their right to sue if malpractice of any sort takes place.

Changes nothing. People on Medicare and Medicaid are the first to sue.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by lookout123

well, this flaja character is certainly the most interesting person to pop up in quite a while.

Radar re dux.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by flaja

Unless rape or incest is involved, the woman has already yielded control over her body to someone else when she got pregnant. Why should she be entitled to reclaim what she had willfully given up just because a baby is involved?

Bull crap. Well except maybe in your world. My understanding it that sex is a 50/50 relationship and a shared control, not one person "yielding control" over another. That is one whacked out line of thinking. Are you married? Do you have another relationship with a person that you "control"?