7/31/2002: Buried Bogota protestor

Undertoad · 07-31-2002, 11:03 AM

Another one: it would appear that the Colombian protestors featured here a few weeks ago were not an isolated case. Here another Colombian protestor is making a non-violent statement about poverty by having himself buried. But this gent is taking it a step further: his eyes and lips were sewn shut for the protest. The obvious message is that he is becoming as powerless as the people he is fighting for. I wouldn't have the guts to do it but you have to appreciate the guy, and the whole approach.

NateXLH1000 · 07-31-2002, 11:21 AM

To whom do you protest people being poor?

Is he in front of a bank? It sucks to be poor but wouldn't there be better things to do than to make yourself inert baggage?

Wouldn't it be better to get a jo- no! that would never work!

ndetroit · 07-31-2002, 11:47 AM

dude..

the unemployment rate is 20%, and 55% of the population lives below the poverty line there...

The manufacture and export of heroin and cocaine are pretty much the main industries.. so saying "Why don't you get a job, you lazy fuck?" is pretty much tantamount to "Why don't you go work for a drug cartel, you lazy fucks?"

Where we live, we can basically go make minimum wage working at mcdonalds or something. There is no such luxury down there (even though the literacy rate is in the 90's)...

Anyways.. imagine how badly off (or how much better?) they'd be without the drug trade to support them... ... ;p

headsplice · 07-31-2002, 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by NateXLH1000
To whom do you protest people being poor?

To anyone who will listen.
ndetroit got it right. Don't take your view of the world and assume that it is the same everywhere else. You and I (assuming you are in the US) are extraordinarily lucky to be living in a place where there is enough of everything for (basically) everyone.

Even if we do have the fourth Stooge for a leader at the moment.

Leus · 07-31-2002, 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by headsplice
Even if we do have the fourth Stooge for a leader at the moment.

Oh... I thought you guys didn't noted it

OTOH, I live in south america, and when unemployment hits, it hits hard. People isn't lazy, just don't have where to work, and we don't have any type of help, like unemployment insurance, or something like that. You don't have a job, you are on your own.

Regards,

Vegeta · 07-31-2002, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by headsplice

Even if we do have the fourth Stooge for a leader at the moment.

...and a lot of unsupportive citizens.

Scred · 07-31-2002, 09:33 PM

Hey, I liked Shemp. What's the deal here?

jwalther420 · 08-01-2002, 10:39 AM

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Originally posted by Vegeta
...and a lot of unsupportive citizens.

Oh...so we're just supposed to support him because he was installed as president by the Supreme Court? Even if he fairly won the election, we should never feel obligated to support our elected officials if we feel they are doing a poor job or are doing harm to our country. Whatever happened to civil disobediance?

And · 08-02-2002, 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by Vegeta
...and a lot of unsupportive citizens.

I didn't vote for Bush, and now that he has wrangled his way into office and is now proceeding to give gorillas a run for their money in the chest-beating department doesn't mean I have to like and/or support him. I don't have to switch my approval over to him just because he's Mr. President now.

A moron in the oval office is still a moron.

And technically, he's the 6th stooge. Moe, Larry, Curly, Curly Joe (no relation), and Shemp.

joquarky · 08-10-2002, 03:46 AM

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Originally posted by jwalther420

Whatever happened to civil disobediance?

The USA PATRIOT ACT happened to it.

russotto · 08-10-2002, 08:51 PM

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Originally posted by joquarky

The USA PATRIOT ACT happened to it.

Betcha Rosa Parks would have thought twice about not moving her butt to the back of the bus if hard time in a Federal pen was the likely penalty.

Tobiasly · 08-10-2002, 09:20 PM

Joquarky and Russotto, what the hell are you talking about? What does the Patriot Act have to do with civil disobedience?

Here's <B>a rather negative and thorough critique of the Patriot Act</B>, and even there I can't find any way of construing it as an attempt to crack down on civil disobedience, or even how it could be misused that way.

Tobiasly · 08-10-2002, 09:22 PM

OK, I didn't notice your link had additional pages at first Joquarky. I see where you get it from, but that's still a pretty far-reaching stretch.

07-31-2002, 11:03 AM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	7/31/2002: Buried Bogota protestor Another one: it would appear that the Colombian protestors featured here a few weeks ago were not an isolated case. Here another Colombian protestor is making a non-violent statement about poverty by having himself buried. But this gent is taking it a step further: his eyes and lips were sewn shut for the protest. The obvious message is that he is becoming as powerless as the people he is fighting for. I wouldn't have the guts to do it but you have to appreciate the guy, and the whole approach.

07-31-2002, 11:21 AM	#2
NateXLH1000 Wiseacre Emeritus Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Masshole Posts: 35	Protest? To whom do you protest people being poor? Is he in front of a bank? It sucks to be poor but wouldn't there be better things to do than to make yourself inert baggage? Wouldn't it be better to get a jo- no! that would never work! __________________ I have no signature.

07-31-2002, 11:47 AM	#3
ndetroit Master Locutor Join Date: May 2001 Location: vancouver Posts: 158	dude.. the unemployment rate is 20%, and 55% of the population lives below the poverty line there... The manufacture and export of heroin and cocaine are pretty much the main industries.. so saying "Why don't you get a job, you lazy fuck?" is pretty much tantamount to "Why don't you go work for a drug cartel, you lazy fucks?" Where we live, we can basically go make minimum wage working at mcdonalds or something. There is no such luxury down there (even though the literacy rate is in the 90's)... Anyways.. imagine how badly off (or how much better?) they'd be without the drug trade to support them... ... ;p

07-31-2002, 09:33 PM	#7
Scred Wharf Rat Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Galaxy Seven, near Phoenixville Posts: 71	Hey, I liked Shemp. What's the deal here?

08-10-2002, 09:20 PM	#12
Tobiasly hot Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Jeffersonville, IN (near Louisville) Posts: 892	Joquarky and Russotto, what the hell are you talking about? What does the Patriot Act have to do with civil disobedience? Here's <B>a rather negative and thorough critique of the Patriot Act</B>, and even there I can't find any way of construing it as an attempt to crack down on civil disobedience, or even how it could be misused that way.

08-10-2002, 09:22 PM	#13
Tobiasly hot Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Jeffersonville, IN (near Louisville) Posts: 892	OK, I didn't notice your link had additional pages at first Joquarky. I see where you get it from, but that's still a pretty far-reaching stretch.

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