My Heart, My Fear, and the Power of the Mind - Page 5

wolf · 02-05-2005, 12:57 PM

I'm not a doctor and don't play one on TV ... sounds like tension.

Right could have been diagnostically significant for something not involving your heart.

Schrodinger's Cat · 02-05-2005, 02:25 PM

One other question, LJ. Any family history of heart problems?

lumberjim · 02-05-2005, 02:35 PM

not really. my uncle had one at 55 or so.....but he eats so bad that he had to have his asshole replaced......so. my dad's aunts and uncles are in their 90's, my moms folks died of cancer and a stroke in their late 60's and early 70's.

again, the whole point here was that i am amazed at the power of suggestion. I'm not really worried about my heart.....i mean it pounded for 4 hours at least twice with out giving out.

Schrodinger's Cat · 02-05-2005, 03:07 PM

That is fairly good news, then. One of the major factors is having a family history of heart disease. This would seem to let you off the hook, especially if your uncle's difficulty was due mainly to poor diet.

Brown Thrasher · 03-05-2005, 11:43 PM

As others have said, sounds like classic panic attack brought on by weed. Weed appears to have a paradoxical effect on some. There are some it just relaxes or makes them extremely hungry. However, there are other people, who at times it will cause this effect and other times they will not get the anxiety at all. I've had a couple of these. Both times, I went outside took some deep breaths and just had to make my brain take back over. They were really scary. I thought I was dying both times. If panic attacks continue, I agree with the others concerning the remedies. See a psychiatrist and either get on a medication such as paxil, effexor, etc.... or he may want to try you for a brief period on ativan, xanax, valium, etc.... There is also a non-addictive drug caused buspar that helps some. Paxil and effexor have been found to be non-addictive as well. However, the latter group I mentioned can be highly addictive if used over a long period of time. GOOD LUCk!!!!

Undertoad · 03-06-2005, 11:00 AM

I'm told there is a difference between addiction and dependency, as in, my body is dependent on Paxil but I am not addicted to it in that I can wean off if I want or need to.

lumberjim · 03-06-2005, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

I can wean off

just wanted to take this out of context.

uh- huh-huh. that was cool.

Brown Thrasher · 03-07-2005, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

I'm told there is a difference between addiction and dependency, as in, my body is dependent on Paxil but I am not addicted to it in that I can wean off if I want or need to.

Paxil is an antidepressent. It is also used for some with anxiety and panic attacks. In controlled scientific srudies, it has shown, not to be a Psychoactive drug which would be addictive, such as xanax, ativan, valium, etc...However, with most any antidepressent you should be weaned to keep from going through mild discomfort. Just like if you quit drinking coffee, you will probably feel some discomfort. However, when taking a drug such as xanax, you stop abrubtly and about the six day you will most likely become psychotic and possibly go into convulsions and die without immediate medical attention.......

Brown Thrasher · 03-08-2005, 10:42 PM

There is a difference between physical dependence and addiction. Don't take my word for it. Do some research..... Just trying to help. DearGod!!!!

02-05-2005, 12:57 PM	#61
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I'm not a doctor and don't play one on TV ... sounds like tension. Right could have been diagnostically significant for something not involving your heart. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

02-05-2005, 02:25 PM	#62
Schrodinger's Cat Macavity Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A Black Box Posts: 157	One other question, LJ. Any family history of heart problems? __________________ Macavity, Macavity, there's no on like Macavity, He's broken every human law, he breaks the law of gravity. - T.S. Eliot, Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats

02-05-2005, 02:35 PM	#63
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	not really. my uncle had one at 55 or so.....but he eats so bad that he had to have his asshole replaced......so. my dad's aunts and uncles are in their 90's, my moms folks died of cancer and a stroke in their late 60's and early 70's. again, the whole point here was that i am amazed at the power of suggestion. I'm not really worried about my heart.....i mean it pounded for 4 hours at least twice with out giving out. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

02-05-2005, 03:07 PM	#64
Schrodinger's Cat Macavity Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A Black Box Posts: 157	That is fairly good news, then. One of the major factors is having a family history of heart disease. This would seem to let you off the hook, especially if your uncle's difficulty was due mainly to poor diet. __________________ Macavity, Macavity, there's no on like Macavity, He's broken every human law, he breaks the law of gravity. - T.S. Eliot, Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats

03-05-2005, 11:43 PM	#65
Brown Thrasher self=proclaimed ass looking for truth whatever that means Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: A treehouse Posts: 193	As others have said, sounds like classic panic attack brought on by weed. Weed appears to have a paradoxical effect on some. There are some it just relaxes or makes them extremely hungry. However, there are other people, who at times it will cause this effect and other times they will not get the anxiety at all. I've had a couple of these. Both times, I went outside took some deep breaths and just had to make my brain take back over. They were really scary. I thought I was dying both times. If panic attacks continue, I agree with the others concerning the remedies. See a psychiatrist and either get on a medication such as paxil, effexor, etc.... or he may want to try you for a brief period on ativan, xanax, valium, etc.... There is also a non-addictive drug caused buspar that helps some. Paxil and effexor have been found to be non-addictive as well. However, the latter group I mentioned can be highly addictive if used over a long period of time. GOOD LUCk!!!! __________________ Let it rain, it eases pain.....

03-06-2005, 11:00 AM	#66
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I'm told there is a difference between addiction and dependency, as in, my body is dependent on Paxil but I am not addicted to it in that I can wean off if I want or need to.

03-08-2005, 10:42 PM	#69
Brown Thrasher self=proclaimed ass looking for truth whatever that means Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: A treehouse Posts: 193	There is a difference between physical dependence and addiction. Don't take my word for it. Do some research..... Just trying to help. DearGod!!!! __________________ Let it rain, it eases pain.....

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