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Old 01-21-2015, 10:10 AM   #16
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OK, I found an angle where you can see the ball hit kind of.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/laces-o...rturned-011115
that link never loads/displays the clip.

http://thebiglead.com/2015/01/11/dez...s-get-screwed/

This one does, and it sure looks like the ball bounces just before it crosses the goal line. it's cradled in his left arm, but it moves up toward his shoulder as though it hit the ground. it seems clear to me that the ball touched the ground.
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Old 01-21-2015, 10:26 AM   #17
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It did, but he was already down when the ball broke loose. He doesn't have to be stopped motionless to be down.
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Old 01-22-2015, 07:29 PM   #18
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[crazy rant]To me the corruption that is Bill ...
Belechick's press conference on air pressure in footballs...

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Old 01-22-2015, 10:32 PM   #19
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Old 01-23-2015, 06:12 AM   #20
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A lot of ex-players are condemning the whole episode, but I don't see the league doing anything. The Ravens may have a legit complaint... love the HH reference.
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Old 01-23-2015, 09:31 PM   #21
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the league has had recent experience where acting first and gathering evidence later produced very bad results. I think they'll be more circumspect.
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Old 01-23-2015, 10:16 PM   #22
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and in soccer and basket ball they are all the father of the other team's Captain.
so true
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Old 01-24-2015, 10:55 AM   #23
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Considering what happened to the Saints after their issue, Bill Belichick should be gone for at least a season.

My plan? STOP FUCKING AROUND.
Loss of complete 2015 draft, Beichick gone for a year, Brady suspended for 8 games and fines, lots of fines $1 million for Belichick, $1 milllion for Brady and $5 million for the ownership.
Also, have the Ravens and Colts playoff to see who gets destroyed by Seattle. (Yeh, I know.. Ain't nobody got time for that.)
Fuck the Cheaters! Worst part is, it was completely unnecessary.
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Old 01-24-2015, 10:58 AM   #24
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wow, that's a little extreme.

I think they should be allowed to do whatever they want to the balls. If each team gets their own 12 balls for each game, they both oughta get them set just as they like them. I'm sure they ALWAYS deflate the balls a bit when it's raining. who cares?

people just want to lynch Bill because he's cheated before. I seriously doubt this was in his awareness before or during the game.
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Old 01-24-2015, 11:47 AM   #25
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Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, happens without him knowing about it. He's a dick. A brilliant coach, but a dick.
He cheated, There should be no room for this in the NFL. Killers, wifebeaters etc etc. Time to clean up the game.

Extreme? This may have cost one of two other teams their chance at a SB. Utter bullshit.

Oh, and the rule about how each team gets to play with balls they select? Thats done, just like the "what constitutes a catch" rule which cost the Cowboys. Both teams should be playing with the same footballs - period.
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Old 01-24-2015, 01:30 PM   #26
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YOU PLAY WITH YOUR BALLS,
I'LL PLAY WITH MINE
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Old 01-24-2015, 04:43 PM   #27
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Bill has handles dozens of balls this past week.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-super-...ot-a-scientist
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