All too common in america?

duck_duck · 06-07-2007, 09:50 PM

(CNN) -- A Kansas man appeared before a judge Thursday on charges he abducted a teenager from an Overland Park, Kansas, store parking lot and killed her.

Edwin Roy Hall, 26, of Olathe, Kansas, appeared via closed-circuit television from the New Century Adult Detention Facility in Gardner, Kansas.

He told the judge he was not sure if he would be hiring his own attorney or needed a public defender, CNN affiliate KMBC reported. He is due back in court in a week.

Hall is charged with first-degree murder and aggravated kidnapping in the death of Kelsey Smith, 18.

Smith, a recent high school graduate, had been missing since Saturday evening, when she went shopping at a Target store for a gift for her boyfriend.

During the search for the teen, police released a pair of videos. The first showed Smith leaving a store at about the same time as a man with a goatee. The second, which is of poor quality, shows a woman police believe to be Smith being forced into a car by a man.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/06/07/mis...een/index.html

Beestie · 06-07-2007, 09:55 PM

DEFCON 5

TheMercenary · 06-07-2007, 10:12 PM

All too common in america? I must say that our open form of government and freedom of press allows us to have a more transparent exposure of our failings as a society, crime included. When was the last time you read about some major crime wave in China? You don't. The whole censorship thingy and all...

Beestie · 06-07-2007, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

...Pearls before swine...

Dude, she isn't here to debate on the merits.

freshnesschronic · 06-07-2007, 10:39 PM

Pretty soon she'll have the WHOLE cellar against her.
But remember, she isn't America bashing. Just stating the facts that we are too stupid to know.

dixy · 06-08-2007, 10:28 AM

It's all too common everywhere.
That's the problem.
Not just America..

Urbane Guerrilla · 06-08-2007, 10:34 AM

Duck could certainly use a more evenhanded, balanced approach -- she's painting herself into a corner of vehement anti-Americanism. That sort of thing will make her real popular on an American forum, you betcha.

BigV · 06-08-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Duck could certainly use a more evenhanded, balanced approach -- she's painting herself into a corner of vehement anti-Americanism. That sort of thing will make her real popular on an American forum, you betcha.

Just curious, UG, what do you think makes this an American forum? The geographical location of the server? If so, what makes that important? Do you think it's because the majority of posters live in America? Something else?

What makes you think this is an American forum and why is that an important distinction to make?

Jeboduuza · 06-08-2007, 05:45 PM

the use of anglish

but to be niiiiiiice (very niiiice~borat reference) we freely welcome Britons and Aussies

06-08-2007, 06:57 PM

America, where young girls are at danger around every corner... not like all the other nations around the world! Yup, our violent crime stats per-capita are just CRAZY!!!
Duck, what kinda' cool drugs have you started taking lately? They must be AWESOME!

Trilby · 06-08-2007, 11:57 PM

I'm starting to like her.

Beestie · 06-09-2007, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BigV

What makes you think this is an American forum and why is that an important distinction to make?

I don't know if this is what UG had in mind but I have a thought which, if I read UG correctly, is similar to his.

While this might not be an American forum it most definitely a Western forum. And by her relentlessly inflammatory "Tokyo Rose" posting style, she is cultivating no small amount of resentment some of which, unfortunately and unfairly, is spilling over into Chinese culture in general.

She is a very poor representative of her country and her culture. I realize she doesn't speak for China but when she's the only one from China that's speaking then she kind of does. Again, that's unfortunate but its no less true. She's obviously intelligent and its downright uncomfortable to see how she masks her pain with a posting style designed to keep everyone on their heels and keep the attention away from who she is and of what she is so terrified of facing.

She'll grow up one of these days. But it won't be here and it won't be soon.

monster · 06-10-2007, 12:48 AM

Everyone loved duck-duck when she first posted here. She was sweet, intelligent and mature. Then her world got ripped apart, she lost her dad (in the divorce sense) and was taken to a new country she must now call home. She's trying hard to call it home. She's trying to make the "old home" the enemy.

She's still the same person, but she's hurting -and she needs attention. And well, hell has she found away to get some attention. Not only that, but attention that reinforces her current feeling of being to blame. maybe.

OK I ran out of wakefullness before i could poist the rest! you fill in the blanks

freshnesschronic · 06-10-2007, 12:56 AM

I thought she moved back to Hong Kong and was VERY excited to be swept away from the States?

Aliantha · 06-10-2007, 11:12 PM

People don't always say what they're feeling if it hurts a lot.

Who knows what's what. No one here except the girl herself.

I hope she gets her shit together soon.

06-07-2007, 09:50 PM	#1
duck_duck Soul Duck Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: over here Posts: 485	All too common in america? (CNN) -- A Kansas man appeared before a judge Thursday on charges he abducted a teenager from an Overland Park, Kansas, store parking lot and killed her. Edwin Roy Hall, 26, of Olathe, Kansas, appeared via closed-circuit television from the New Century Adult Detention Facility in Gardner, Kansas. He told the judge he was not sure if he would be hiring his own attorney or needed a public defender, CNN affiliate KMBC reported. He is due back in court in a week. Hall is charged with first-degree murder and aggravated kidnapping in the death of Kelsey Smith, 18. Smith, a recent high school graduate, had been missing since Saturday evening, when she went shopping at a Target store for a gift for her boyfriend. During the search for the teen, police released a pair of videos. The first showed Smith leaving a store at about the same time as a man with a goatee. The second, which is of poor quality, shows a woman police believe to be Smith being forced into a car by a man. http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/06/07/mis...een/index.html __________________ Girls are like phones. We love to be held, talked too but if you press the wrong button you'll be disconnected!

06-07-2007, 09:55 PM	#2
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06-07-2007, 10:12 PM	#3
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	All too common in america? I must say that our open form of government and freedom of press allows us to have a more transparent exposure of our failings as a society, crime included. When was the last time you read about some major crime wave in China? You don't. The whole censorship thingy and all... __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

06-08-2007, 10:28 AM	#6
dixy passionate Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: el paso, tx Posts: 20	It's all too common everywhere. That's the problem. Not just America.. __________________ the history books forgot about us, and the bible didn't mention us, not even once.

06-08-2007, 10:34 AM	#7
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Duck could certainly use a more evenhanded, balanced approach -- she's painting herself into a corner of vehement anti-Americanism. That sort of thing will make her real popular on an American forum, you betcha. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

06-07-2007, 10:39 PM	#5
freshnesschronic Professor Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,555	Pretty soon she'll have the WHOLE cellar against her. But remember, she isn't America bashing. Just stating the facts that we are too stupid to know.

06-08-2007, 05:45 PM	#9
Jeboduuza Custom User Title Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: de_dust Posts: 141	the use of anglish but to be niiiiiiice (very niiiice~borat reference) we freely welcome Britons and Aussies __________________ I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. -Voltaire

06-08-2007, 06:57 PM	#10
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	America, where young girls are at danger around every corner... not like all the other nations around the world! Yup, our violent crime stats per-capita are just CRAZY!!! Duck, what kinda' cool drugs have you started taking lately? They must be AWESOME!

06-08-2007, 11:57 PM	#11
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	I'm starting to like her. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

06-10-2007, 12:48 AM	#13
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Everyone loved duck-duck when she first posted here. She was sweet, intelligent and mature. Then her world got ripped apart, she lost her dad (in the divorce sense) and was taken to a new country she must now call home. She's trying hard to call it home. She's trying to make the "old home" the enemy. She's still the same person, but she's hurting -and she needs attention. And well, hell has she found away to get some attention. Not only that, but attention that reinforces her current feeling of being to blame. maybe. OK I ran out of wakefullness before i could poist the rest! you fill in the blanks __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

06-10-2007, 12:56 AM	#14
freshnesschronic Professor Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,555	I thought she moved back to Hong Kong and was VERY excited to be swept away from the States?

06-10-2007, 11:12 PM	#15
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	People don't always say what they're feeling if it hurts a lot. Who knows what's what. No one here except the girl herself. I hope she gets her shit together soon. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

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