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Old 11-27-2011, 01:47 PM   #691
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Figuring out I was wrong de-radicalized me.
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Old 11-27-2011, 02:21 PM   #692
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Figuring out I was wrong de-radicalized me.
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Old 11-28-2011, 05:00 PM   #693
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What's your problem with American citizens exercising their rights to freedom of assembly and freedom of speech?
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Does not equal freedom to occupy....
Freedom to assemble, unless it's in a place.
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Old 12-01-2011, 11:36 AM   #694
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"Elected leaders should be more concerned about enforcing regulations on banks than enforcing park rules," spokesman Jacob Hay tells the Los Angeles Times. "They should be busy creating jobs, not creating conflict with peaceful protesters."
If I'm understanding this guy's quote correctly, he's saying the elected leaders responsible for 'creating conflict with peaceful protesters' are the ones who should be focused on enforcing regulations on banks. If I'm understanding his city's situation correctly, it's City Hall calling the shots regarding the protesters. Now I'm curious, what can city hall do to enforce regulations on banks? I thought that was a federal level thing and it's not the feds rousting the protesters.
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:06 PM   #695
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Town Hall is responsible for municipal bank reconciliations. An employee of the city (like the town clerk) has the job of accounting for all monies taken in, making sure bank statements tally with the municipalitie's own records and so on. Banks are also subject to regulation on the State level.
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:40 PM   #696
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<snip> Now I'm curious, what can city hall do to enforce regulations on banks?
I thought that was a federal level thing and it's not the feds rousting the protesters.
Do a Google News search on "OWS and FBI" to find articles about Homeland Security
participating in conference calls between city officials in several "occupied" cities.
Apparently DHS helped with coordination of both strategy and tactics.

As a result, a group of attorneys have filed Freedom of Information Act papers
to gain access to records of DHS participation in the OWS activites.
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Old 12-01-2011, 02:26 PM   #697
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Do a Google News search on "OWS and FBI" to find articles about Homeland Security
participating in conference calls between city officials in several "occupied" cities.
Apparently DHS helped with coordination of both strategy and tactics.

As a result, a group of attorneys have filed Freedom of Information Act papers
to gain access to records of DHS participation in the OWS activites.
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My next question would be what actual law enforcement division is out on the streets? The feds holding the line or advising on how to hold it? It'd be a bit different if the feds were actually doing the enforcing.
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Old 12-01-2011, 03:39 PM   #698
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It'd be a bit different if the feds were actually doing something.
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Old 12-01-2011, 04:28 PM   #699
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My next question would be what actual law enforcement division is out on the streets?
The feds holding the line or advising on how to hold it?
It'd be a bit different if the feds were actually doing the enforcing.
I'm sorry, but I'm not understanding where we are going with this discussion.
And, it bothers me when someone tries to re-word something another has said.

Were you simply pointing out that signs of the OWS spoke to national issues,
while local authorities have no way to affect those national issues ?
If so, I could agree the locals may be powerless in that respect.

But that still would not be sufficient to nullify the message of the OWS signs.
That is, it's not necessary to have a full fledged "March on Washington" to send a national message.
OTOH, it's hard me to see why the DHS would or should need to be involved in such local demonstrations.
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Old 12-01-2011, 04:48 PM   #700
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I'm sorry, but I'm not understanding where we are going with this discussion.
And, it bothers me when someone tries to re-word something another has said.
What got re-worded?

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Were you simply pointing out that signs of the OWS spoke to national issues,
while local authorities have no way to affect those national issues ?
If so, I could agree the locals may be powerless in that respect.
Didn't say anything about OWS's signs. I saw that guy's statement about the elected officials enforcing bank regulations instead of bothering protesters. I was curious as to what enforcement local (city/town level) elected officials could enforce on banks, because I thought the enforcement of regulations was done on the federal level. That question was answered.

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But that still would not be sufficient to nullify the message of the OWS signs.
That is, it's not necessary to have a full fledged "March on Washington" to send a national message.
OTOH, it's hard me to see why the DHS would or should need to be involved in such local demonstrations.
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Didn't say anything about nullifying or otherwise diminishing OWS's message. And frankly, I don't see why an unincorporated city wouldn't call the relevant federal agency if they have a problem. They call FEMA when there are natural disasters... why not call DHS if they perceive a potential security issue?
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Old 12-01-2011, 05:13 PM   #701
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Sorry, my bad. I meant I was trying to avoid re-wording anything in your posts.
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Old 12-02-2011, 06:52 AM   #702
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Freedom to assemble, unless it's in a place.
Not the same as occupy. Nice try.
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:10 AM   #703
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:51 AM   #704
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Pass? Fail? FAIL!

The whole of the 'occupy' movement FAILS.


Are the uber-rich any less rich? No.

Aside from token support, have the 'governors' re-formed anything to dis-empower the uber-rich? No.


-FAILFAILFAILFAIL-

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Old 12-02-2011, 08:54 AM   #705
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And at what cost to the taxpayer?
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