Female Muslim medics 'disobey hygiene rules'

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by DanaC

I think it was more the idea that Islam is somehow inherently and uniquely stupid and barbarous that I was objecting to Flint. Much of what appears to be 'Islam' is actually a culturally based interpretation of Islam and in no way universally accepted by the Islamic diaspora. Doesn't make it any less stupid and barbarous....just makes it less inherent to the actual religion.

The "Islamic diaspora" is but a tiny minority of all people of the Islamic faith. It seems to me that many of the more radical elements apear to come from the educated middle or upper middle class of Islamic society.

[spudcon]

Although we have no defense against the MRSA infection, we do have a defense against this "diaspora" infection. No compliance to hygiene laws, no acceptance in med school or medical profession.

[piercehawkeye45]

Is this just an isolated incident?

Also, this would be a good time to bring up Christian hospitals that refuse to hand out morning after pills to rape victims, I saw something on that a while back.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

The "Islamic diaspora" is but a tiny minority of all people of the Islamic faith. It seems to me that many of the more radical elements apear to come from the educated middle or upper middle class of Islamic society.

Of course, a very easy way of getting and keeping power.

[spudcon]

"Also, this would be a good time to bring up Christian hospitals that refuse to hand out morning after pills to rape victims, I saw something on that a while back."
Funny, I didn't know being pregnant could infect a whole hospital.

[Clodfobble]

It's true! The last time I was in the hospital, every single patient in my ward was pregnant too!

[DanaC]

lol

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by spudcon

"Also, this would be a good time to bring up Christian hospitals that refuse to hand out morning after pills to rape victims, I saw something on that a while back."
Funny, I didn't know being pregnant could infect a whole hospital.

Dirty surgery isn't likely to infect the whole hospital either, as the microbes in question are by definition all over the hospital already. But it can certainly impact the individual patient.

[Clodfobble]

And how many individual patients does one doctor with germ-ridden sleeves see in a day?

[DanaC]

I might point out that we are talking about objections raised by a small number of medical students in four or five universities. This is highly unlikely to be anything but a minor issue, and extremely unlikey to feed through into actual practice.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by DanaC

I might point out that we are talking about objections raised by a small number of medical students in four or five universities. This is highly unlikely to be anything but a minor issue, and extremely unlikey to feed through into actual practice.

And we're discussing the reasons why it shouldn't.

The real problem, in my mind, is that anybody would think this is acceptable behavior. When the total absence of reason that is rooted in religious ignorance begins to dictate people's actions, and they actually think that other people should give a fuck, then you really do have a problem in society*. The fact that this is taking place "in four or five universities" demonstrates that it isn't just an isolated problem. It's popping up all over the place, and it needs to be FORCEFULLY SQUASHED.

*and the same applies to religious morons in America: tyring to stop AIDS with abstinence, for instance

[BigV]

Originally Posted by Flint

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*and the same applies to religious morons in America: tyring to stop AIDS with abstinence, for instance

For instance....

Are you saying that abstinence is an ineffective way of stopping the spread of AIDS?

[Flint]

Originally Posted by BigV

Are you saying that abstinence is an ineffective way of stopping the spread of AIDS?

Telling people "just don't have sex!" is an ineffective way of accomplishing anything whatsoever.

[Shawnee123]

Does that include abstaining from cyber sex?

[BigV]

Abstinence is an almost certain way of preventing the spread of the AIDS virus, and you know it.

Being abstinent is, apparently, supremely difficult. But it does substantially reduce the transmission of the virus. Naturally, sharing virus laden bodily fluids in other ways does still represent a transmission vector, like needle sharing for example.

Don't be as deliberately ignorant and hysterical as those other morons, religious or otherwise, in spreading misinformation. You're too sharp for that.

[Flint]

Don't be obtuse. Simply telling people not to have sex accomplishes nothing, in reality. It's a theoretical solution with no practical application.