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Old 08-06-2008, 01:55 PM   #31
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I guess all I want to do is to become better with women. The sex, relationships, drama and whatever are all byproducts. I'm in it for the process.
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Old 08-06-2008, 02:10 PM   #32
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The process of being better at relating to other humans begins with the process of relating well to yourself and acting accordingly with that self-confidence.

There is no shortcut...and if there were, it certainly wouldn't be learning how to be a total douchebag. You don't want to end up like Dimitri.
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Old 08-06-2008, 02:10 PM   #33
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I guess all I want to do is to become better with women. The sex, relationships, drama and whatever are all byproducts. I'm in it for the process.
It's not rocket science, dude. To "become better with women" all any man really needs to do is pay attention, be kind, and treat her with honesty and respect.

Women don't really want Mr Smooth Rico Suave...just be yourself. The way you put it sounds so phony and robotic. Do you need schematics and work procedures?
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Old 08-06-2008, 02:34 PM   #34
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if you don't take the time to work on you and figure out why it is that you have this deep desire "to just be better with women" and an interest in being a PUA you're just destined to be a douchebag picking up the slags at closing time. you seem to have this misguided idea that a PUA is good with women. A PUA is easy to spot from a mile away because he's the one using tired cliche moves that are transparent attempts to get some ass. he will often be successful at getting laid but that's it. he doesn't get that the same woman probably would have slept with him anyway, but if he'd been a bit more genuine there would be more positive after effects than grabbing his pants and splitting. A successful PUA has the same basic value as condom. Sure, it does the job, but it just isn't the same as feeling. you can't be better with women until you're better with yourself.
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Old 08-06-2008, 09:28 PM   #35
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I'm sorry everyone here disagrees, but go for it Fresh. Nothing wrong with it, in my opinion if you can't be one you become a hater of it. But the guys who are enjoying themselves in the college scene will welcome the hate from the guys who can't do it like them.

As I said before, the process > the outcome.
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Old 08-06-2008, 11:33 PM   #36
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a choice not to be a douche is not the same as an inability to be a douche. I've enjoyed my share of romantic times and probably took a few others' shares as well, and I tell you that it can be done without going the PUA artist route.
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:03 AM   #37
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It is obvious we define a PUA differently.
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Old 08-07-2008, 02:04 AM   #38
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hopefully that is true. For me the PUA is the guy who is looking to score, doesn't really care who it's with or what happens after, and generally isn't treating the women with much respect. A PUA's basic motto can be summed up with "get in, get off, get out".
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Old 08-07-2008, 02:07 AM   #39
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Damn, this thread makes me glad I'm married. I never want to go through that again!
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Old 08-07-2008, 08:21 AM   #40
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Speck is right. I can't be a college male pick-up artist, so I'm a hater. Huh?

I've been around that block, I'm speaking from experience. When you've been halfway around that block give me a call, we might have something to talk about.

Yep, choosing to respect women is a bad choice. Especially when your penis is throbbing.
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