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Old 01-14-2010, 01:33 PM   #31
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pssst. who do you think will actually pay that?
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Old 01-14-2010, 01:35 PM   #32
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It will come in the form of an admin fee passed down to the users, and in keeping with the Dems process of making it seem like they can't pass it on, it will be implemented over a number of years.
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Old 01-14-2010, 01:39 PM   #33
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That's ok. Only rich people use banks anyway.
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Old 01-14-2010, 01:44 PM   #34
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If one bank has a fee and another bank doesn't, how long before consumers figure this out and go to the bank without the fee? No, the banks will hide it somewhere, like in slightly lower interest payments, and hope nobody notices.
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Old 01-14-2010, 01:47 PM   #35
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Do banks all charge the same fees now? People bank where they do for a variety of reasons, not just fees.

It doesn't matter where the banks put the fees, the point is that this new tax on the bad guy is really just another tax on you and your neighbors. way to play it straight Obama.
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Old 01-15-2010, 01:16 PM   #36
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But if it's just as easy as sneaking/demanding more money from consumers, how were the banks ever broke in the first place? At some point customers will either refuse to pay more, or have no more to give.
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Old 01-15-2010, 01:22 PM   #37
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The Credit Cardholder's Bill of Rights Act of 2009

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On December 18, 2008 the Federal Reserve voted to end many unfair credit card practices. However, the new rules didn't make it through the Senate before the 110th session of Congress ended.

Fortunately, the rules were amended and renamed to the Credit Card Accountability Responsibility and Disclosure Act of 2009 or the Credit CARD Act of 2009. The law was revoted and passed in both the House and the Senate. President Obama signed the legislation on May 22, 2009, making it part of the Truth in Lending Act.
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No more double cycle billing finance charges.

No interest rate increases during the first 12 months of opening a credit card, unless the rate increase was disclosed when you first opened the credit card.

Credit card issuers must give a 45-day advanced notice before increasing your interest rate or making any major change to your credit card agreement. This is a big increase over the current 15-day advanced notice requirement.

Payments above the minimum must be applied to highest-interest rate balances.

No fees to make your credit card payment online, by mail, or over the phone, unless you make a last-minute payment over the phone and your bill is due the same day or next day.
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Old 01-15-2010, 03:39 PM   #38
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pssst. who do you think will actually pay that?
Shouldnt the big banks and lending institutions that received TARP funds pay those funds back in full?

Agreed there is probably a better way, but what is to prevent passing those costs on under any proposal?

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The Credit Cardholder's Bill of Rights Act of 2009
A great (not just good) law, long over-due. But of course, unfortunately, some of the worst offenders will spend big bucks to find loopholes.

And, nothing will ever replace more personal responsibility when it comes to credit cards and personal finances.
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Old 01-15-2010, 03:46 PM   #39
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Oh, I agree, but it does take away some of the trickery that the powerful credit card companies employ.

I think it was Voltaire who said (what'd he say again?)
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...I think it was Voltaire who said (what'd he say again?)
Banquiers! Bah, porcs bourgeois ... hors de leur tête.
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Old 01-15-2010, 06:04 PM   #41
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Old 01-15-2010, 10:14 PM   #42
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Don't forget these accomplishments
--1st president in 110 years to miss the annual Army-Navy Football Game.

---1st president to not attend any Christmas religious observance.

---1st president to stay on vacation after a terrorist attack

Add to that, he's the first President not to stay in Washington for Christmas for the last 20 years. Past Presidents did not leave Washington for Christmas vacation until after Christmas. This was done so that their staff (Secret Service, Air Force One Crew, Limousine transport, Presidential advancing logistics etc..) could be with their families for Christmas.
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Old 01-15-2010, 11:58 PM   #43
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When his Chief of Staff whispered in his ear, "A second plane has just struck the World Trade Center", then Obama sat for 15 minutes in a childs chair. Did not move. Did not ask any questions. Simply waited to be told what to do.

When informed that the worst possible scenario - a category 5 hurricane - would strike a major American city, Obama flew to Orange County CA for a campaign fund raiser. And then to McCain's birthday party in AZ.

When a tsunami killed a half million people, Obama refused for a week to let the Eisenhower task force in Hong Kong go to their rescue. After all, Obama said six C-130s were assistance.

When his Sec of the Treasury arrived to discuss a four page memo on the economy, Obama's Treasury Secretary discovered Obama had never read it. So he spent two hours reading and explaining that memo to Obama point by point.

After being informed of the political agenda, Obama decided to send men to Mars.

After meeting with the German Chancellor, then Norway's Foreign Minister said Obama would destroy the Oslo Accords.

Oh. Sorry. George Jr already did that. Which proves wacko extremists must be smarter. Limbaugh has again told me how to think.

When terrorists attacked on 9/11, our president sat in a childs chair for 15 minutes without even asking one question. He must be so smart as to never need to ask anything.
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Old 01-16-2010, 12:39 AM   #44
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Spud, dude....can you make that post any bigger and bolder?

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Don't forget these accomplishments:

1st president in 110 years to miss the annual Army-Navy Football Game.
Unpatriotic bastard!

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1st president to not attend any Christmas religious observance.
God-less heathen!

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1st president to stay on vacation after a terrorist attack
Lazy irresponsible bum!

The Obama Trifecta and A Trifecta of Nonsense

It never ceases to amaze me that some are so consumed with hate that they buy into these inane viral e-mails without a second thought.

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Old 01-16-2010, 02:29 AM   #45
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Add to that, he's the first President not to stay in Washington for Christmas for the last 20 years. Past Presidents did not leave Washington for Christmas vacation until after Christmas. This was done so that their staff (Secret Service, Air Force One Crew, Limousine transport, Presidential advancing logistics etc..) could be with their families for Christmas.
No presidential staff on hand for the last 20 years of Xmas? Oh sure.
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