Wego Kite Tube of Death Accident - Page 2

Trilby · 06-27-2006, 05:58 PM

Maggie, you know as well as I that that 'release of liability' isn't worth the paper it's written on.

MaggieL · 06-27-2006, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna

Maggie, you know as well as I that that 'release of liability' isn't worth the paper it's written on.

I know no such thing.

You seem to have a problem with contracts. How about instructions?

MaggieL · 06-27-2006, 08:43 PM

There's eleven more pages of instructions. If you choose to ignore them, what excuse do you have for blaming the manufacturer? The device isn't defective.

I really would like to get to select my own risks, rather than have everything but the lowest common denominator unavailable because somebody too dumb to live needs to be protected from themselves.

wolf · 06-27-2006, 08:48 PM

We have lost a lot of majorly cool things to the stupidity of the lowest common denominator.

*sigh* Like children's toys with small, easy to swallow parts. I loved my real Mr. Potato Head.

Ridgeplate · 06-27-2006, 09:06 PM

Hey, if they didn't want us to eat the Mr. Potato Head pieces, then they shouldn't have made them so damned tasty! I still remember that little hat...

Delicious!

Trilby · 06-27-2006, 09:17 PM

whatever.

Ibby · 06-28-2006, 12:30 AM

I have to side with Maggie on this one; the government/judicial system is not there to protect me from MYSELF. If I'm going to ride a big ol' piece of goddamned plastic twenty feet in the air, without safety equipment, then that's my problem, not the maker's.

Do they shut down gun companies because people shoot themselves with the guns sometimes?

Crimson Ghost · 06-28-2006, 12:43 AM

Quote -
"Never kite higher that you are willing to fall."

In my line of work, I've seen people die from a three foot fall (footfootfoot).

MaggieL · 06-28-2006, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibram

Do they shut down gun companies because people shoot themselves with the guns sometimes?

They certainly try.

Elspode · 06-28-2006, 08:25 AM

"But I read the instructions and ignored them. Doesn't that still make the manufacturer liable? After all, you can't expect *me* to be responsible."

Later, the same person would consume lighted cigarettes for breakfast, chase it with five quarts of bourbon, and take 12 sleeping pills...because they were really tired and needed lots of sleep, then sue RJ Reynolds, Jim Beam and Squibb.

glatt · 06-28-2006, 08:32 AM

OK, so if you dig around on the website and find the owner's manual and hunt and poke around you can find other warnings about the thing. You had to go past all the descriptions about how wonderful the thing is in order to find those warnings. Most shoppers probably aren't going to poke around for that stuff, and the company knows it. The tube/kite is marketed as safe. There is no hint that it can kill you. What would motivate a potential buyer to look for warnings about it if there is no hint that it's dangerous?

Also, the manual may say that the product is to be used at a lower speed. At the link wolf posted, there are a few people who say the kite won't become airborne at those lower speeds. So you have a company that is marketing a kite tube that won't fly unless you are going around 30 MPH, but the liability lawyers are saying that you should only use it at 15-20 MPH. The company knows full well that people will go 30, and their lower speed recommendation is not sincere. It's simply an insincere attempt to CYA.

wolf · 06-28-2006, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibram

Do they shut down gun companies because people shoot themselves with the guns sometimes?

Since you're not in the US, you probably aren't aware of this ... they've been trying.

Lawsuits have been attempted against several gun manufacturers because criminals use their products in the commission of crimes.

I've never been clear on the logic of this one, because nobody has tried to sue Ford as being responsible for drunk driving accidents because they make the cars.

Ibby · 06-28-2006, 10:03 AM

They try, but they can't cause it's damn stupid.

wolf · 06-28-2006, 10:26 AM

Ah, to be young and think the world works based on logic (Don't get me wrong, I love your idealism).

Stupid doesn't mean it won't eventually get past a judge who wants to screw the gun manufacturers.

overlawyered.com's gun page

Ibby · 06-28-2006, 10:32 AM

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I personally think they should all get shut down. But I know they wont. One, maybe two miiiight, possssssibly, somehow, go down. But I know they wont.

06-27-2006, 05:58 PM	#16
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Maggie, you know as well as I that that 'release of liability' isn't worth the paper it's written on. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

06-27-2006, 08:43 PM	#18
MaggieL in the Hour of Scampering Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Jeffersonville PA (15 mi NW of Philadelphia) Posts: 4,060	There's eleven more pages of instructions. If you choose to ignore them, what excuse do you have for blaming the manufacturer? The device isn't defective. I really would like to get to select my own risks, rather than have everything but the lowest common denominator unavailable because somebody too dumb to live needs to be protected from themselves. __________________ "Neither can his Mind be thought to be in Tune,whose words do jarre; nor his reason In frame, whose sentence is preposterous..."

06-27-2006, 08:48 PM	#19
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	We have lost a lot of majorly cool things to the stupidity of the lowest common denominator. sigh Like children's toys with small, easy to swallow parts. I loved my real Mr. Potato Head. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

06-27-2006, 09:17 PM	#21
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	whatever. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

06-28-2006, 12:30 AM	#22
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	I have to side with Maggie on this one; the government/judicial system is not there to protect me from MYSELF. If I'm going to ride a big ol' piece of goddamned plastic twenty feet in the air, without safety equipment, then that's my problem, not the maker's. Do they shut down gun companies because people shoot themselves with the guns sometimes? __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

06-27-2006, 09:06 PM	#20
Ridgeplate Zen Laxatives: "This too shall pass..." Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 53	Hey, if they didn't want us to eat the Mr. Potato Head pieces, then they shouldn't have made them so damned tasty! I still remember that little hat... Delicious!

06-28-2006, 12:43 AM	#23
Crimson Ghost Larger than life and twice as ugly. Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,264	Quote - "Never kite higher that you are willing to fall." In my line of work, I've seen people die from a three foot fall (footfootfoot). __________________ We must all go through a rite of passage. It must be physical, it must be painful, and it must leave a mark. I have no knowledge of the events which you are describing, and if I did have knowledge of them, I would be unable to discuss them with you now or at any future period. Don't waste your time always searching for those wasted years

06-28-2006, 08:25 AM	#25
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	"But I read the instructions and ignored them. Doesn't that still make the manufacturer liable? After all, you can't expect me to be responsible." Later, the same person would consume lighted cigarettes for breakfast, chase it with five quarts of bourbon, and take 12 sleeping pills...because they were really tired and needed lots of sleep, then sue RJ Reynolds, Jim Beam and Squibb. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

06-28-2006, 08:32 AM	#26
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	OK, so if you dig around on the website and find the owner's manual and hunt and poke around you can find other warnings about the thing. You had to go past all the descriptions about how wonderful the thing is in order to find those warnings. Most shoppers probably aren't going to poke around for that stuff, and the company knows it. The tube/kite is marketed as safe. There is no hint that it can kill you. What would motivate a potential buyer to look for warnings about it if there is no hint that it's dangerous? Also, the manual may say that the product is to be used at a lower speed. At the link wolf posted, there are a few people who say the kite won't become airborne at those lower speeds. So you have a company that is marketing a kite tube that won't fly unless you are going around 30 MPH, but the liability lawyers are saying that you should only use it at 15-20 MPH. The company knows full well that people will go 30, and their lower speed recommendation is not sincere. It's simply an insincere attempt to CYA.

06-28-2006, 10:03 AM	#28
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	They try, but they can't cause it's damn stupid. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

06-28-2006, 10:26 AM	#29
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Ah, to be young and think the world works based on logic (Don't get me wrong, I love your idealism). Stupid doesn't mean it won't eventually get past a judge who wants to screw the gun manufacturers. overlawyered.com's gun page __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

06-28-2006, 10:32 AM	#30
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	Whoa, whoa, whoa. I personally think they should all get shut down. But I know they wont. One, maybe two miiiight, possssssibly, somehow, go down. But I know they wont. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

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