CyberBully

classicman · 03-26-2009, 05:02 PM

Thousands turn to cyberbully site

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A new website set up to help people being cyberbullied has already prompted tens of thousands of children to look for help.

Cybermentors.org.uk is thought to be the first website in the world where help for victims comes from others their own age through instant messaging and online videos.

Newsbeat went to meet 13-year-old Georgia Woods who, with her mobile phone, laptop and the cuddly toys on her bed is like most other girls her age.

But six months ago it was a different story when she was being picked on by cyberbullies through her mobile, by email and on websites.

She said: "You don't feel like you're safe anywhere. You come home and they can still contact you.

"You go out with your friends and they can still get to you. It made me feel worthless and so down I even thought about taking my own life."

And it wasn't just Georgia's life that was affected, Sarah-Jane's mum felt the pressure too.

She said: "It makes you cry. My whole world, and her dad's, just fell apart."

More than 23,000 people have now logged on to the website.

A series of graphic adverts illustrating teen suicide are also being launched to warn of the dangers of cyberbullying.

Somebody call the Whaaambulance!

Clodfobble · 03-26-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Somebody call the Whaaambulance!

Clearly you were never bullied, or at least not by a girl. Girl bullying is completely different from boy bullying.

sugarpop · 03-26-2009, 08:10 PM

You know, anything that will eliminate bullies in the world is fine by me. Bullies suck. And kids are fragile little creatures.

DanaC · 03-26-2009, 08:59 PM

Fuck classic, they're kids. Kids being bullied and made to feel shit about themselves. Whaaambulance indeed. *rolls eyes*

classicman · 03-26-2009, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Clearly you were never bullied, or at least not by a girl. Girl bullying is completely different from boy bullying.

Oh really? please share

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Originally Posted by DanaC

Fuck classic, they're kids. Kids being bullied and made to feel shit about themselves. Whaaambulance indeed. *rolls eyes*

the Whaaambulance was for her mother's comment.

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She said: "It makes you cry. My whole world, and her dad's, just fell apart."

I think thats being A LOT dramatic. But ...

DanaC · 03-26-2009, 09:42 PM

Then you clearly havent been parent to a child whose entire childhood is being blighted by something you are powerless to effect. You don't think watching your child shrink into a shadow of herself and start to want to die might break your heart a little? Really?

I know my mum had sleepless night and sleepless night and I know her heart broke for me a thousand times. Christ, her and dad spent more time in my fucking school than I did some years.

lumberjim · 03-26-2009, 10:18 PM

some folks are out there LOOKING to be victims.

just sayin'

dar512 · 03-27-2009, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

some folks are out there LOOKING to be victims.

just sayin'

I'm always shocked when I see stuff like this from you, Jim. I think of you as a nice guy - wacky but fun. Then stuff like this comes along and completely floors me. It shows such a lack of empathy/compassion that the mind boggles.

Pie · 03-27-2009, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dar512

I'm always shocked when I see stuff like this from you, Jim. I think of you as a nice guy - wacky but fun. Then stuff like this comes along and completely floors me. It shows such a lack of empathy/compassion that the mind boggles.

He's being a dick on purpose. I ignore him.

Classic, I flew off the handle. I retract the harshness, but reiterate my judgment on your lack of empathy.

TheMercenary · 03-27-2009, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dar512

I'm always shocked when I see stuff like this from you, Jim. I think of you as a nice guy - wacky but fun. Then stuff like this comes along and completely floors me. It shows such a lack of empathy/compassion that the mind boggles.

Hey stop that. He gets to set the bar here.

lumberjim · 03-27-2009, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dar512

I'm always shocked when I see stuff like this from you, Jim. I think of you as a nice guy - wacky but fun. Then stuff like this comes along and completely floors me. It shows such a lack of empathy/compassion that the mind boggles.

well....dar.....that's where you're coloring in your own opinions of what kind of person I am. and you too, Pie...

that statement is, in my opinion, accurate. there ARE people out there that take satisfaction from being victimized. they need/want the compassion that they get from it.....it's passive aggression. munchausen(sp?) whatever...

I have no idea if the example used in this post is that aspect, or a legit victim. irrelevant to my point.

...the only reason i pointed it out at all was because there is a fucking website for someone to sell advertising on (mention of which made it into the article/advert, oddly enough).....is, most likely, the real reason for it's existence. opportunistic profiteering on the victimization of those 'poor poor teens' who can't step away from the computer, ignore text messages etc etc...

the website encourages a victim mentality. they benefit from it.

now call me a shit some more

i think you're full of yourself and overestimate the value of your so called honor. and i am seldom floored by it. or boggled.

i still love you though, cock.

Undertoad · 03-27-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

...the only reason i pointed it out at all was because there is a fucking website for someone to sell advertising on (mention of which made it into the article/advert, oddly enough).....is, most likely, the real reason for it's existence. opportunistic profiteering on the victimization of those 'poor poor teens' who can't step away from the computer, ignore text messages etc etc...

the website encourages a victim mentality. they benefit from it.

What usually encourages a serious victim mentality is personality, combined with dehumanizing physical, sexual, or emotional abuse, neglect, or other serious adverse events during childhood.

it doesn't really come from websites

If somebody has worked out a way for a supportive caring atmosphere to make money, I salute them! I think that being relentlessly bullied for a year helped to turn my panic disorder into social anxiety disorder, but I'd never know without serious therapy. Oh well!

dar512 · 03-30-2009, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

well....dar.....that's where you're coloring in your own opinions of what kind of person I am. and you too, Pie...

Possibly. Here's what you said: "some folks are out there LOOKING to be victims. just sayin'"

The subtext I heard was "... so they deserve whatever they get."

If that's not the statement you intended to make, then I'm confused as to why you brought up the point.

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

i think you're full of yourself

Because I try to act ethically and I speak out against unethical behavior? Does that equal stuck-up to you?

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

overestimate the value of your so called honor.

I don't think it is possible to overestimate ethical behavior. It is the basis for trust.

jinx · 03-30-2009, 11:45 AM

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Possibly. Here's what you said: "some folks are out there LOOKING to be victims. just sayin'"

The subtext I heard was "... so they deserve whatever they get."

I think you should think about why you heard a subtext that isn't there. "Deserve whatever they get" is a judgment and not what we're talking about at all. Acknowledging the roles we play in the events in our own lives isn't about judgment, it's about learning, growing, being safe etc...
I can believe that rape is bad and rapists are always at fault and still teach my daughter that she is responsible for her own safety.

If you only address half the problem, you're gonna get a half-assed solution (see Mercs article).

lumberjim · 03-30-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dar512

Possibly. Here's what you said: "some folks are out there LOOKING to be victims. just sayin'"

The subtext I heard was "... so they deserve whatever they get."

If that's not the statement you intended to make, then I'm confused as to why you brought up the point.

so you heard what you expected to hear, and assumed my intent. I already clarified this point, but once more.....SOME people are looking to play victim. as for why I brought it up....it was because the victim DOES play a role in bullying.....and no one had mentioned that yet. hence.....discussion. until you began casting personal aspersions about. yes you...

jinx pointed out something interesting to me...

notice how all of the people that have said they were bullied have lashed out inappropriately at one person or another? sheldon is glad someone is DEAD? wtf?

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Originally Posted by dar512

Because I try to act ethically and I speak out against unethical behavior? Does that equal stuck-up to you?

no...it's not because of WHAT you say...it's HOW you say it. condescending tone that implies your superior sense of honor......constantly. and what behavior of mine was unethical in this thread? I have been making an effort lately to NOT bully or personally insult people unless they go first. you have not noticed this, i expect.....

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Originally Posted by dar512

I don't think it is possible to overestimate ethical behavior. It is the basis for trust.

i agree with that.

03-26-2009, 10:18 PM	#7
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	some folks are out there LOOKING to be victims. just sayin' __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-26-2009, 08:10 PM	#3
sugarpop Professor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: the edge of the abyss Posts: 1,947	You know, anything that will eliminate bullies in the world is fine by me. Bullies suck. And kids are fragile little creatures.

03-26-2009, 08:59 PM	#4
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Fuck classic, they're kids. Kids being bullied and made to feel shit about themselves. Whaaambulance indeed. rolls eyes

03-26-2009, 09:42 PM	#6
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Then you clearly havent been parent to a child whose entire childhood is being blighted by something you are powerless to effect. You don't think watching your child shrink into a shadow of herself and start to want to die might break your heart a little? Really? I know my mum had sleepless night and sleepless night and I know her heart broke for me a thousand times. Christ, her and dad spent more time in my fucking school than I did some years.

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