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Old 08-14-2013, 09:49 AM   #1
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How many times per day does internet explorer crash on you?

has to be 4 to 6 times a damn day for me.

I HAVE to use it for dealer track to work.... and I've had it up to here.

shitty shitty shitty
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Old 08-14-2013, 09:57 AM   #2
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I have to use it for my time sheet, and it's painful. It just doesn't work properly. To be fair, the problem is the version of Java required for the time sheet program and IE doesn't want to let me use that version because it's not secure. So I have to click through a bunch of dire warnings and force it to run. The time sheet doesn't work with current Java. It's all messed up. And I can't wait to close that browser when I'm done.
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Old 08-14-2013, 10:12 AM   #3
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Sometimes I'm sad at the state of my profession. Enterprise software doesn't have to be as bad as it is. The dysfunction is a complex, systemic issue.

More and more companies are making good enterprise software. But the incumbents will continue to suck asshole (and not in a fun way).
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Old 08-14-2013, 10:42 AM   #4
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Old 08-14-2013, 11:07 AM   #5
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I only use it when reproducing bugs that IE users run into. The developer console crashes IE a lot.
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Old 08-14-2013, 11:19 AM   #6
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my point being that I don't use it.

I think it's far more trouble to use than it's worth, for the reasons you've described. I'm not in a situation where I **have to** use it, so, I don't; no use therefore no crashes.

I feel sympathy for you folks that are forced to use it though. That seems... dumb.
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Old 08-14-2013, 11:30 AM   #7
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Old 08-14-2013, 01:15 PM   #8
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I HAVE to use it for dealer track to work.... and I've had it up to here.
You HAVE to,... but if it's actually compatible with modern browsers, you can use Chrome, and fake that you're using IE.

The user-agent is where your browser tells the website what software you're using. Change that, and websites will think you're using IE.
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Old 08-14-2013, 01:53 PM   #9
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The only problem I have with IE is the occasional website that's says, "Ewww IE, go away" ... and I do. If the site is really obnoxious I might go back with Firefox with full on adblock as a payback.

Back when I was working, IE there was a clusterfuck which makes me wonder if it's really IE that's the problem.

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Sometimes I'm sad at the state of my profession. Enterprise software doesn't have to be as bad as it is. The dysfunction is a complex, systemic issue.
In-house system admin/tech support job security?
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Old 08-14-2013, 02:39 PM   #10
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Will try that.
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Old 08-14-2013, 02:43 PM   #11
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In-house system admin/tech support job security?
I don't want to go deeply into it but...

That and enterprise software vendors pawn off really shitty software as state of the art. There's little incentive to improve the situation.

Also most developers are crap and it's really hard to judge skill, only slightly less so when you are a developer yourself. Corporate recruiters are just completely fucked.

A medical IT system company wanted to pay me ridiculous amounts of money to come in and run a team to hack something shitty together in six months. They wouldn't allow regular access to domain experts or hire a data scientist to figure out what analyses should be presented. "Just display some averages and percentages. Whatever seems right." Basically a prototype that they would then force (thousands of) people to use and wouldn't invest money in to make better.

This sort of story repeats itself every day. There is a lot of inefficiency in the enterprise realm, and it's super hard to drive it out.
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Old 08-14-2013, 03:31 PM   #12
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Didn't work for me, ute. u can get to the site, but it won't print contracts or import deals.

Oh well. Thanks anyway.
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Old 08-14-2013, 04:29 PM   #13
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Old 08-14-2013, 04:40 PM   #14
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It was worth a try.



I can say easily because it didn't take me any effort
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Old 08-14-2013, 10:31 PM   #15
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has to be 4 to 6 times a damn day for me.
Usually, when someone complains about IE crashing, I find malware on the machine.

The new trick is to download free software. Then the 'download' site also downloads a numbers of 'questionable' programs. They can be a bitch to eliminate. Since once they are deleted using Control Panel, then they reload themselves later. You must manually go into the Registry to also locate every tiny entry that refers to each 'questionable' program. Sometimes as many as 40 entries.
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