Massive earthquake rocks the US!

[lookout123]

Obviously not today, but it could happen someday - just ask TDub.

I was talking to a friend about the consequences of a major disaster in the US. He talked on and on about the big picture items but seemed stumped when I pressed him on what he would do for himself and his family. He was stumped when he had to actually think about something immediate and personal.

My family has a basic plan for a couple different scenarios and some supplies for some possible needs. Maybe I'm insane or I watch read too many post-apocalyptic books but it is something we've talked about at length.

What is your "oh shit" plan?

What would you and your family do if a major earthquake hit your area and shut pretty much everything down? What if there was no expectation of outside help for a week? 4 weeks? 6 months? Ever?

[classicman]

I've thought about it and discussed with my kids. We have a very basic plan, but since we are spread out, it is more than difficult.

We have an agreed upon plan A and backup meeting place. I have weapons and water for a limited time. Thats about all we got.

[monster]

we have food and water to last a reasonable time and serious camping gear, but it's all in the basement.

[glatt]

There's a river between where I work, and my family. If I'm at work and some bad shit takes out the bridges and collapses the metro tunnel, it will be bad. So bad, that I'll probably be buried in rubble.

But other than that, we have 2-3 weeks of food in the pantry. No weapons, except improvised ones.

[squirell nutkin]

Would you mind showing your list of what you think it is a good idea to have? I'd be curious.

[jinx]

I need to find more red barns to take pictures of... winning a case of meat is my emergency plan.

[SamIam]

I plan NOT to survive any mega-disasters. We all gotta go sometime. Adios.

[squirell nutkin]

what about mini disasters?

[zippyt]

we have a few cases of MREs , Ammo , guns,some water , camping gear and a few different places to go if need be , oh we also have Earth Quake Ins ( We Live near the new Madrid fault, and had to pay EXTRA for it )
Better safe than Sorry .

[monster]

Originally Posted by squirell nutkin

Would you mind showing your list of what you think it is a good idea to have? I'd be curious.

nothing special in our case. It varies from week to week -it's not a set emergency supply, just doubles as one. I hate shopping, shopping is easier when you only have to buy a few things, so I buy non-perishable items when they're on sale and I buy approximately a month's worth. So each shop I only have to buy a few things -just lots of them. We keep the excess in the basement until we need it.

Clearly some things are better in an emergency that other -for example we always have pasta in but that needs water and heat to cook, not necessarily abundant in times of emergency....

but beyond that we typically have 10-12 types of cereal, maybe 40 boxes total -great emergency food. canned tuna, canned soup, canned fruit, canned tomatos, canned beans, cookies, various beverages including water and gatorade, flour, sugar, rice, tea, coffee, spare tea kettle.... if we could get to our stuff, we'd be OK for a while.

[monster]

oh yes, and we do have can openers down there too

[xoxoxoBruce]

If your hungry, raw pasta is better than pebbles to fill the gut.

[monster]

true. and you can wipe your arse on the packaging.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Or burn it for heat/light... but I wouldn't do both.

[squirell nutkin]

I have some extra leaves, some nuts. The usual stuff.

My friend gave me this list:
From a Sarajevo War Survivor:
Experiencing horrible things that can happen in a war - death of parents and
friends, hunger and malnutrition, endless freezing cold, fear, sniper attacks.

1. Stockpiling helps. but you never no how long trouble will last, so locate
near renewable food sources.
2. Living near a well with a manual pump is like being in Eden.
3. After awhile, even gold can lose its luster. But there is no luxury in war
quite like toilet paper. Its surplus value is greater than gold's.
4. If you had to go without one utility, lose electricity - it's the easiest to
do without (unless you're in a very nice climate with no need for heat.)
5. Canned foods are awesome, especially if their contents are tasty without
heating. One of the best things to stockpile is canned gravy - it makes a lot of
the dry unappetizing things you find to eat in war somewhat edible. Only needs
enough heat to "warm", not to cook. It's cheap too, especially if you buy it in
bulk.
6. Bring some books - escapist ones like romance or mysteries become more
valuable as the war continues. Sure, it's great to have a lot of survival
guides, but you'll figure most of that out on your own anyway - trust me, you'll
have a lot of time on your hands.
7. The feeling that you're human can fade pretty fast. I can't tell you how many
people I knew who would have traded a much needed meal for just a little bit of
toothpaste, rouge, soap or cologne. Not much point in fighting if you have to
lose your humanity. These things are morale-builders like nothing else.
8. Slow burning candles and matches, matches, matches




100 Items to Disappear First

1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.)
2. Water Filters/Purifiers
3. Portable Toilets
4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)
6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice - Beans - Wheat
11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,)
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking.
14. Mini Heater head (Propane) (Without this item, propane won't heat a room.)
15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric)
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.
17. Survival Guide Book.
18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
22. Vitamins
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item)
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)
28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).
30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)
32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit
35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
37. First aid kits
38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
41. Flour, yeast & salt
42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first
43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns
47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)
48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels)
49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
51. Fishing supplies/tools
52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
53. Duct Tape
54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
55. Candles
56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
58. Garden tools & supplies
59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
76. Reading glasses
77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)
78. "Survival-in-a-Can"
79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog
81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)
85. Lumber (all types)
86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's
88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
89. Lantern Hangers
90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
91. Teas
92. Coffee
93. Cigarettes
94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
95. Paraffin wax
96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.
97. Chewing gum/candies
98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
100. Goats/chickens