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Old 03-04-2018, 09:10 PM   #136
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ouch. I won't be sending Thoughts and Prayers your way, but I will be thinking about you. Is it any coincidence that Thoughts and Prayers abbreviates to TP?
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Old 03-04-2018, 09:18 PM   #137
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I've just figured out Trump must be into homeopathy, so that's why he thinks the solution to dozens of deaths by assault rifle is to give a teacher in each school a handgun.
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Old 03-05-2018, 05:14 AM   #138
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I've just figured out Trump must be into homeopathy, so that's why he thinks the solution to dozens of deaths by assault rifle is to give a teacher in each school a handgun.
Nah- if he was into homeopathy he'd let the teachers hold the guns for five minutes, then take them away and let the memory of the gun protect them.
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Old 03-05-2018, 06:07 AM   #139
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Ha!
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Old 03-05-2018, 08:31 PM   #140
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I've just figured out Trump must be into homeopathy, so that's why he thinks the solution to dozens of deaths by assault rifle is to give a teacher in each school a handgun.
He said he would run into that school building even without a gun. He said. But he didn't. And he won't. He just will not solve our problems.
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Old 03-05-2018, 09:58 PM   #141
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Bring tissues.


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"The President Sang Amazing Grace"
by Joan Baez

A young man came to a house of prayer
They did not ask what brought him there
He was not friend, he was not kin
But they opened the door and let him in

And for an hour the stranger stayed
He sat with them and seemed to pray
But then the young man drew a gun
And killed nine people, old and young

In Charleston in the month of June
The mourners gathered in a room
The President came to speak some words
And the cameras rolled and the nation heard

But no words could say what must be said
For all the living and the dead
So on that day and in that place
The President sang Amazing Grace
The President sang Amazing Grace

We argued where to lay the blame
On one man's hate or our nation's shame
Some sickness of the mind or soul
And how the wounds might be made whole

But no words could say what must be said
For all the living and the dead
So on that day and in that place
The President sang Amazing Grace
My President sang Amazing Grace
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Old 03-05-2018, 10:16 PM   #142
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My stepson was involuntarily admitted to a psychiatric hospital last night after revealing to ER staff his detailed plan to shoot up his high school. So, you know. Fun times.

(I'm sure y'all know who this is, but medical confidentiality and all that.)

I'm fucking tired.
I am gobsmacked.

Perhaps that accounts for my inability to place you. Or, more likely, you overestimated my capacity. You do seem to give me credit for knowing you, so I'll rest on that.

W.T.F.F.

I hope everything turns out ok. jfc.
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Old 03-06-2018, 07:37 AM   #143
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ouch. I won't be sending Thoughts and Prayers your way, but I will be thinking about you.
Thanks. If you could make a few paeans to the sleep fairy, that would help.

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I am gobsmacked.

Perhaps that accounts for my inability to place you. Or, more likely, you overestimated my capacity. You do seem to give me credit for knowing you, so I'll rest on that.

W.T.F.F.

I hope everything turns out ok. jfc.
Perhaps you're unable to place me because you can't possibly imagine that this sort of thing happens to people you know very well and consider to be good, even excellent parents? It's a straight-up mental health case, of course. He had absolutely no access to weapons, and did indeed make a cry for help. But the obsessions and sociopathic thoughts had apparently been fomenting for years, and even amidst sobs in the ER he openly prided himself on how well he'd hidden his inner monologue from everyone. We're very, very proud of him for doing the right thing and reaching out, but at the same time I don't think he really understands what he's put in motion. I'm not entirely sure he ever gets to go back to school, though as far as they know right now he's just taking a few sick days. Given his admitted ability to manipulate adults with ease, I don't know that appearing stable will be enough to let him out. What I do know is that his mother is freaking the fuck out, and he's refusing to see her, and I think he intends to request to come live with us instead when he does get out. Which will be a hard call to make, given the other children in the house. Very hard to imagine a good outcome from all this.
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Old 03-06-2018, 08:17 AM   #144
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That's a really tough road to be on. Good for him to come clean, but I wonder if he will regret it and learn to keep his mouth shut and let the demons run around in his head unchecked.

My impulse would be to circle the wagons and not let him in, but he's one of the ones who should be on the inside of the wagon circle, not the outside. What an awful choice to have to make.

I don't know enough about mental illnesses to know how well his can be treated and if he can be made "safe" to be around the rest of the family.
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Old 03-08-2018, 06:17 AM   #145
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An armed society is a...

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/201...hooting_a.html

stupid society?
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Old 03-10-2018, 11:09 AM   #146
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https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...-san-francisco

Let's put armed vets in every school in America. /s
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Old 03-10-2018, 06:40 PM   #147
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Nurse Ratched would have kicked his ass.
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Old 03-10-2018, 08:19 PM   #148
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Let's put armed vets in every school in America.
Then who would be left to initiate unjustified wars to lower American living standards?
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:47 AM   #149
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Then who would be left to initiate unjustified wars to lower American living standards?
That's the job of politicians.




*I watched one of my daughter's school mates take his oath recently. I don't blame the soldier for the terrible political decisions. I do wonder about the decision to serve in our current climate.
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Old 03-11-2018, 09:13 AM   #150
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Might be the lack of other employment opportunities, or lack of resources for further education. Wanting a piece of that $600,000,000,000 military budget?
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